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flymexico2010 Jan 7, 2011 2:30 pm

seat availability co.com
 
Hi,

I was searching if a simillar thread already exist, unfortunately could not find anything.

I was checking the availability for CO106 the segment EWR-MUC and for example for tommorow I can see a lot of seats available in economy but in flight standby list is says economy is full.
How come that there are still seats but economy is full? is that because some people did not select their seats? can anybody explain it?

I was checking this flight to see the chances for a bump for a future flight...

Mackieman Jan 7, 2011 2:37 pm

Seat maps are notoriously unreliable for determining how full or empty a flight is. It is entirely possible that seats are blocked for one reason or another or that ticketed passengers simply do not have seat assignments. The only way to really know if a flight is oversold is to have access to a crystal ball...

sbm12 Jan 7, 2011 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15606796)
is that because some people did not select their seats?

Generally, yes. It isn't all that uncommon actually.

flymexico2010 Jan 7, 2011 2:44 pm

then it means that if it says economy full in flight standby list the flight is actually full in economy and I should disregard the empty seats?

I was checking the availability because many are saying that this is a heavy route ( I was checking for today, tomorrow and sunday and every day says economy is fully booked)....from my experience I took it 3 times and once they were offering 600$ for VDB...

sbm12 Jan 7, 2011 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15606886)
then it means that if it says economy full in flight standby list the flight is actually full in economy and I should disregard the empty seats?

If the standby page says that the flight is full then that means that it is full. The empty seats on the map are not indicative of loads being light.

wcalvert Jan 7, 2011 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15606871)
Generally, yes. It isn't all that uncommon actually.

And just to add a touch, it really isn't uncommon on non-elite heavy flights. You will have a large section of the plane that is un-assignable to the general public until T-24. If you see the non-elite area of the plane full; it is going to be a very full flight.

rkkwan Jan 7, 2011 3:21 pm

Right now, it shows available in both classes.

flymexico2010 Jan 7, 2011 3:28 pm

for today is shows still full.

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...ts.aspx?NFT=FS

ofcourse I mean the EWR-MUC segment.

rkkwan Jan 7, 2011 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15607227)
for today is shows still full.

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...ts.aspx?NFT=FS

ofcourse I mean the EWR-MUC segment.

Today 1/7? The flight that just left gate? 19A and 20L are open, as are many BF seats.

http://pda.continental.com/PDA20/Fli...65dee&gInfo1=4

Tomorrow 1/8: both classes available as of this moment.

http://pda.continental.com/PDA20/Fli...b8a4e&gInfo1=3

flymexico2010 Jan 7, 2011 3:40 pm

In this case I think the Flight standby list is not reliable.
if you check in co.com the flightstatus the flight standby list for tommorow and sunday will show economy full.

Mackieman Jan 7, 2011 3:46 pm

That is an interesting bug. PDA shows available, CO.Com shows full for Y on tomorrow's CO106 EWR-MUC. I would've thought the same data fed both sites.

sbm12 Jan 7, 2011 3:47 pm


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15607317)
In this case I think the Flight standby list is not reliable.

Based on what?


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15607317)
if you check in co.com the flightstatus the flight standby list for tommorow and sunday will show economy full.

Yup. On Saturday there are 32 unassigned seats right now. On Sunday it is 30. It would not surprise me at all to know that those seats are sold and unassigned.

CO is not selling any coach seats on those flights anymore. That's what the "full" means in this context.

flymexico2010 Jan 7, 2011 4:07 pm

maybe in todays case some pax misconnected therefore when the flight was closed co.com was showing one available seat in economy right? could it be a reason?

sbm12 Jan 7, 2011 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by flymexico2010 (Post 15607496)
maybe in todays case some pax misconnected therefore when the flight was closed co.com was showing one available seat in economy right? could it be a reason?

Absolutely. Or someone changed their mind and chose not to fly.

flymexico2010 Jan 11, 2011 9:36 am

as far as I can see this route is doing pretty well.
on a tuesday and the flight co106 (EWR-MUC segment) is fully booked as shown in flight standby list...

have you had any bump experience on this flight so far?


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