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Originally Posted by BlondyFA
(Post 15306663)
Honestly Channa,you just need to go fly on another airline...I have yet to read anything positive from you.
However, what will change is the "new UA" as I think that many of the good things that CO does will be incorporated into the merged entity. I hope this includes the Direct TV system being added to the current UA aircraft. And I also hope that many of the good things that UA does will be kept as well. For example, it would be nice to be able to listen to the flight deck-ATC transmissions (Ch. 9 on UA aircraft) on the current CO airplanes. Make no mistake: I believe the CO influence on the "new UA" will be pervasive and for the better. |
Originally Posted by jlemon
(Post 15307849)
Make no mistake: I believe the CO influence on the "new UA" will be pervasive and for the better.
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Originally Posted by channa
(Post 15306590)
This is good. At least you were able to admit that it was a decision, and it was made by the COmpany. That's a start.
As for what CO does good, there are areas where CO does well, but this topic is about DirecTV, which is one of the areas where I think it's mixed. It's nice that CO has it, but it's not so great that CO charges for it. Being one of the few carriers to charge for it, then being the only carrier not to comp it for its Elites is a huge weakness for CO. I'm hoping you can see that. Then to learn that infrastructure exists to enable this, but CO elected not to install such infrastructure is even more disappointing. Personally, having flown more than 160 segments YTD, with another 20 planned before year end, hopefully you can understand that this sort of uncompetitiveness by CO isn't just a few bucks here or there on this topic. Had all this flying been on CO domestic Y, that'd be more than $1,000 in additional annual cost to flying CO for IFE over its COmpetitors who provide COmplimentary in-flight entertainment. |
Originally Posted by danville 1K
(Post 15307880)
Pervasive? For sure. Better? The jury is still out on that. Much criticism from both the CO and UA flyers.
There is the opportunity here for both carriers to combine into a truly great airline and I hope this indeed happens. |
Originally Posted by jlemon
(Post 15307939)
Please note use of the word "hope" in my post. I truly mean that after having flown both CO and UA for many, many years.
There is the opportunity here for both carriers to combine into a truly great airline and I hope this indeed happens. |
Originally Posted by channa
(Post 15306781)
Indeed, and I have. As CO service quality and customer service has deteriorated over the years, CO has gone from my primary carrier, to my secondary carrier, to now a carrier I fly only if I have a CO voucher or find a mistake fare.
If I need or want to go somewhere, I don't fly CO, and I have paid more to fly other carriers and avoid CO, even when it was out of my own pocket, as I've found CO's perks to be below its peers. |
Originally Posted by DeaconFlyer
(Post 15310130)
And still you post over and over on a Continental message board.
Even moreso with the merger, I need to be aware of potential negative changes CO may bring to UA. |
Originally Posted by jlemon
(Post 15307849)
However, what will change is the "new UA" as I think that many of the good things that CO does will be incorporated into the merged entity. I hope this includes the Direct TV system being added to the current UA aircraft.
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Originally Posted by channa
(Post 15311145)
If we want to take the "best of both worlds," we should strive to get the DTV setup that CO has, with UA's policy of free IFE.
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Originally Posted by channa
(Post 15311145)
If we want to take the "best of both worlds," we should strive to get the DTV setup that CO has, with UA's policy of free IFE.
Let's face it, main screen video programming is rarely compelling, and for those of us who fly more than a few times a month, seeing the same episodes of The Office or Everybody Hates Chris over and over again is stale. In the past with CO, and now with UA, I forego the main screen programming at least 90% of the time, even when it doesn't cost me anything. However, the inverse is true for the times I find myself in Y on CO on a DTV-equipped 737. I share your sentiment regarding the paid mixers in F, but in this instance, I'd rather have high-quality entertainment available for a nominal fee than the only offering being some subpar, virtually unwatchable selection for free. Plus, the in-seat power is a nice perk. I am disappointed that CO has not explored any more creative pricing models for the LiveTV product, or, in the alternative, that the system is incapable of it. |
Originally Posted by photog72
(Post 15311270)
Keep dreaming, buy F, fly another airline, or hope for the upgrade. That's the only way for free IFE.
Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 15311389)
I don't think free DTV is an option given CO's arrangement with LiveTV.
T-Mobile is a perfect example. They had a stranglehold on many of the airline clubs who jumped into it early and signed long-term deals with the attitude that they didn't want to bother with Internet access, just send it out and let T-Mo deal with it. Then when CO did their own and was able to offer it for free (quickly matched by NWA), then the others were at a disadvantage. UA followed with access in the system for its members and now hands out cards for non members (presumably bought at a bulk rate), DL has a bulk arrangement for logons, AA does it, and so on, all with T-Mo. Perhaps when UA looks at the TV numbers, they'll see a way to package and better monetize the DTV offering. DL's approach, for example, is to have free TV and basic movies, but charge a modest fee for premium movies (which are free in F). Or AC's approach with AVOD is that it has ads when you start a show. |
Originally Posted by danville 1K
(Post 15308827)
You clearly stated the influence of CO was going to be pervasive and better. The better part is what has yet to be proven.
I also think that Mr. Tilton believes this as well which is why his number one choice with regard to merger partner was CO. |
Originally Posted by channa
I find it highly unlikely that they would further restrict functionality in a next gen product. Generally speaking, one would increase functionality, not take it away.
Yes, for me as a geek, nerd, FT'er, engineer and several other qualifications it's a dumbed down interface, but not everybody likes or is able to navigate through several layers of touchscreen interfaces. For most companies it's easier to deliver the latter (highly technical interface with all the bells and whistles and less intuitive) whilst offering the former (highly simplistic interface without all the bells and whistles and very intuitive) later on, despite the reversed simplicity... Welcome to the tech-world I'd say... |
- we are held personally accountable and subject to discipline) Personally, I'm glad they put in the DTV, even with the dumb arrangement they used; not for the DTV but for the laptop power which to me IS a value-add. |
Originally Posted by jlemon
(Post 15315541)
Yep....and that's why I used the word "believe" in my post. This was a statement of my opinion after flying both CO and UA for many years and also based on my experience working either for or with four different airlines during my career in aviation.
I also think that Mr. Tilton believes this as well which is why his number one choice with regard to merger partner was CO. |
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