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joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 7:12 pm

Under-21 Guested into PC
 
It seems unclear from the rules, but can someone under 21 be guested into the PC by someone over 21? And not as a spouse or child.

LAX Oct 24, 2010 7:14 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15005955)
It seems unclear from the rules, but can someone under 21 be guested into the PC by someone over 21? And not as a spouse or child.

I don't see why not. Which rules are you referring to that are unclear?

LAX

FriendlySkies Oct 24, 2010 7:14 pm

I don't see why not. The CO rules say that you have to be 21 to be a member, but there is not restriction on the age of the guests, as long as they are with somebody..

joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by LAX (Post 15005959)
I don't see why not. Which rules are you referring to that are unclear?

LAX

When discussing the guest and family rules, there was an emphasis that family under 21 was permitted, as if to imply that guests must be over 21. They also stated that guests must meet the same *A requirements as the person with access, but it didn't state that everywhere.

When the person who's guesting me in leaves, do I need to leave as well, or can I wait until my flight?

FriendlySkies Oct 24, 2010 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15005973)
When discussing the guest and family rules, there was an emphasis that family under 21 was permitted, as if to imply that guests must be over 21. They also stated that guests must meet the same *A requirements as the person with access, but it didn't state that everywhere.

When the person who's guesting me in leaves, do I need to leave as well, or can I wait until my flight?

I think you'll be fine, even if you bring in somebody, I doubt the CO agents would come check if you left your guest in the club. I've taken people in many times, and then left, while they have stayed in the club, even after my flight has departed.

LAX Oct 24, 2010 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15005973)
When discussing the guest and family rules, there was an emphasis that family under 21 was permitted, as if to imply that guests must be over 21. They also stated that guests must meet the same *A requirements as the person with access, but it didn't state that everywhere.

When the person who's guesting me in leaves, do I need to leave as well, or can I wait until my flight?

I wonder if that emphasis is in place to prevent people circumventing the number of guests (usually two, but not sure if CO PC membership permits more) permitted by claiming multiple adult family members (I think one is allowed more than 1 child plus spouse)?

LAX

joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by LAX (Post 15006123)
I wonder if that emphasis is in place to prevent people circumventing the number of guests (usually two, but not sure if CO PC membership permits more) permitted by claiming multiple adult family members (I think one is allowed more than 1 child plus spouse)?

LAX

Not sure. For people who are permitted to bring in guests, sometimes it's 2 and sometimes it's 1. "Family" refers to spouse and children under 21. Perhaps the emphasis is that once your child is older than 21, he/she is no longer permitted to enter as "family."

Either way, considering that it's ME that's under 21, and not my guest (I'm the one trying to get guested in,) I really hope they don't turn me away! And honestly, I don't even care about the drinking (which is why it's 21). All I want to do, is be able to sit in a quiet area, surf the web, and watch the Giants game!

mnmag Oct 24, 2010 8:07 pm

Even when I've used the AmEx Plat for PC access, I was allowed to bring my family (spouse, 2 kids)! So, definitely an 'under 21' can be guested into the PC, they simply are not permitted to be the primary member! My understanding is that -- depending on the method of access to the PC, -- ie. PC membership, reciprocal partner benefit, or *Gold status (non-domestic partner) -- the number of guests varies according to the program being utilized.

sbm12 Oct 24, 2010 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15005973)
When the person who's guesting me in leaves, do I need to leave as well, or can I wait until my flight?

The rule and reality differ on this one. Officially guests must leave when their host does. In reality that will be loosely enforced at best, particularly in the larger clubs.

joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 15006213)
Even when I've used the AmEx Plat for PC access, I was allowed to bring my family (spouse, 2 kids)! So, definitely an 'under 21' can be guested into the PC, they simply are not permitted to be the primary member! My understanding is that -- depending on the method of access to the PC, -- ie. PC membership, reciprocal partner benefit, or *Gold status (non-domestic partner) -- the number of guests varies according to the program being utilized.

For sure family under 21 is permitted. My question is whether a non-family member, regular guest, who's under 21 is permitted. The rationale could be that children under 21 are sticking with their parents anyways, and the parent would be responsible not to serve alcohol to a minor. But for guests, they may not necessarily stick with the primary member. I could be wrong though (and I REALLY hope I am!)

sobore Oct 24, 2010 8:11 pm

I don't see any issue here. Many under 21's in the PC.
If an under-21 attempts a liquor transaction that's where the issue would start.

joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by sobore (Post 15006237)
I don't see any issue here. Many under 21's in the PC.
If an under-21 attempts a liquor transaction that's where the issue would start.

How would the bartender know? Considering all primary members are over 21, except for BF fliers who are under 21, but they're anyways introduced to the bartender.

sobore Oct 24, 2010 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15006265)
How would the bartender know? Considering all primary members are over 21, except for BF fliers who are under 21, but they're anyways introduced to the bartender.

People have been carded before in airline clubs. If an individual appears too young to purchase liquor the club has an obligation to ask for ID, if not they jeopardize their liquor license.

LAX Oct 24, 2010 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15006183)
Not sure. For people who are permitted to bring in guests, sometimes it's 2 and sometimes it's 1. "Family" refers to spouse and children under 21. Perhaps the emphasis is that once your child is older than 21, he/she is no longer permitted to enter as "family."

Either way, considering that it's ME that's under 21, and not my guest (I'm the one trying to get guested in,) I really hope they don't turn me away! And honestly, I don't even care about the drinking (which is why it's 21). All I want to do, is be able to sit in a quiet area, surf the web, and watch the Giants game!

Oh! Now that you have brought alcohol into the equation, I have heard people getting denied entry into lounges that have self-serve alcohol. Other than that, I don't see how age would come into play.

LAX

joshwex90 Oct 24, 2010 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by LAX (Post 15006370)
Oh! Now that you have brought alcohol into the equation, I have heard people getting denied entry into lounges that have self-serve alcohol. Other than that, I don't see how age would come into play.

LAX

The PC is not self-serve alcohol; there's a cashless bar. But because of that, the age requirement is 21 or over (with the exception of a BF-flier under 21 who's flying alone). The only people under 21 allowed in would be family and possible guests.


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