Under-21 Guested into PC
 

It seems unclear from the rules, but can someone under 21 be guested into the PC by someone over 21? And not as a spouse or child.

I don't see why not. Which rules are you referring to that are unclear?

LAX

I don't see why not. The CO rules say that you have to be 21 to be a member, but there is not restriction on the age of the guests, as long as they are with somebody..

When discussing the guest and family rules, there was an emphasis that family under 21 was permitted, as if to imply that guests must be over 21. They also stated that guests must meet the same *A requirements as the person with access, but it didn't state that everywhere.

When the person who's guesting me in leaves, do I need to leave as well, or can I wait until my flight?

I think you'll be fine, even if you bring in somebody, I doubt the CO agents would come check if you left your guest in the club. I've taken people in many times, and then left, while they have stayed in the club, even after my flight has departed.

I wonder if that emphasis is in place to prevent people circumventing the number of guests (usually two, but not sure if CO PC membership permits more) permitted by claiming multiple adult family members (I think one is allowed more than 1 child plus spouse)?

LAX

Not sure. For people who are permitted to bring in guests, sometimes it's 2 and sometimes it's 1. "Family" refers to spouse and children under 21. Perhaps the emphasis is that once your child is older than 21, he/she is no longer permitted to enter as "family."

Either way, considering that it's ME that's under 21, and not my guest (I'm the one trying to get guested in,) I really hope they don't turn me away! And honestly, I don't even care about the drinking (which is why it's 21). All I want to do, is be able to sit in a quiet area, surf the web, and watch the Giants game!

Even when I've used the AmEx Plat for PC access, I was allowed to bring my family (spouse, 2 kids)! So, definitely an 'under 21' can be guested into the PC, they simply are not permitted to be the primary member! My understanding is that -- depending on the method of access to the PC, -- ie. PC membership, reciprocal partner benefit, or *Gold status (non-domestic partner) -- the number of guests varies according to the program being utilized.

The rule and reality differ on this one. Officially guests must leave when their host does. In reality that will be loosely enforced at best, particularly in the larger clubs.

For sure family under 21 is permitted. My question is whether a non-family member, regular guest, who's under 21 is permitted. The rationale could be that children under 21 are sticking with their parents anyways, and the parent would be responsible not to serve alcohol to a minor. But for guests, they may not necessarily stick with the primary member. I could be wrong though (and I REALLY hope I am!)

I don't see any issue here. Many under 21's in the PC.
If an under-21 attempts a liquor transaction that's where the issue would start.

How would the bartender know? Considering all primary members are over 21, except for BF fliers who are under 21, but they're anyways introduced to the bartender.

People have been carded before in airline clubs. If an individual appears too young to purchase liquor the club has an obligation to ask for ID, if not they jeopardize their liquor license.

Oh! Now that you have brought alcohol into the equation, I have heard people getting denied entry into lounges that have self-serve alcohol. Other than that, I don't see how age would come into play.

LAX

The PC is not self-serve alcohol; there's a cashless bar. But because of that, the age requirement is 21 or over (with the exception of a BF-flier under 21 who's flying alone). The only people under 21 allowed in would be family and possible guests.

There are two unique 21 age limits.

1. Membership: Must be 21 or over to be a member

2. Being considered "family" and allowed in under the membership. As a PC member, when traveling with my family, I can bring in my wife and both of my children (currently both are under 21), for a total of three guests. Once my oldest reaches 21, I'd be limited to bringing in only one of my children. If I had six childern under 21, conceivably I could bring all six in (but I wouldn't do that to myself or to the other club members).

If I'm traveling with my mistresses instead of my family, I can only bring two of them in. My choice on which two of: the 20, 22 or 24 year olds. ;) No age limit on my two guests.

Heck, I've been carded multiple times in PCs and I'm 29! The most recent was CLE this spring.

I've been going into PC's by myself since I was probably 16 or 17...I guess they are tightening up the rules, or I'm finally growing into my 30 year old body :D

I've never even had them to ID a guest.

I've always been carded. Granted I'm 23 and look younger than I am. I've gotten second formed at PC's as well, however RCC's have never hassled me.

If you want to sneak the twirp a beer, you need to sit out of view of the bartender. They only allow 2 drinks at a time and generally to tables they can keep an eye on

Considering I'm the under-21 "twirp," thanks, but I'll pass. I live abroad now where it's legal to drink, and I no longer feel the need I did just a couple of years ago to drink whenever I can. Besides, alcohol before a long flight tends to do more damage to me than good :)

I'm just looking to watch the Giants game :D and catch up on some work :(

I've got a one-visit pass, but I'm still under 21 (and it'll expire before I turn 21). Would I have any issues getting into clubs without self-serve bars?

None of the PC's have self-serve bars. They have cashless bars, and the only way someone under 21 can get in as the primary member would be if you're flying BF. Holding the pass will not let you in. Do you know if it's transferable?

I had an under 21 (19yo) guest at the PC this summer with my Amex card. No issues at all. We are not related, and I am wayyyy too young to pass as someone's parent.

Ok, thanks. It says non-transferable--but it's just a paper pass from Chase. Would (hypothetically speaking) giving it to someone not be an option at all?

Well is there anything that necessarily associates the pass with you, or is it really just the bearer who would have access?

Nope--no tracking numbers or anything.

So give it (or shh, sell it) to a friend