Amtrak codeshare = elite qualifying segment?
 

I know one pass members get EQMs from the amtrak codeshares, but I can't find a definitive answer whether the codeshare counts as a segment as well? It seems to good to be true that I can tack on an entire segment just from flying to ewr and taking a train to Philly rather than fly direct...

Also, is there any reason I couldn't get ua mileage plus segments from CO/Amtrak codeshares?

Thanks!!

Here is the earnings page for Amtrak and CO:
http://www.continental.com/CMS/en-US...spx?ItemId=109

The Amtrak ticket for EWR-Philly(ZFV)-EWR must be sold in conjunction with a Continental airline ticket. Otherwise, you wont earn miles for that segment.

As far as I know, Amtrak codeshare does not earn Elite Qualifying Segment points for CO OnePass.

It looks like you cannot earn UA MP mileage through Amtrak/CO codeshare.
AMtrak is not a UA MP partner:
http://www.united.com/page/article/0...13partnerguide

Darn, I was hoping it would earn a segment. Can anyone confirm? Anyone tried it?

Also, does it have to be a united partner if it is a co codeshare "flight" with it's own flight number and all? I thought anything with a co flight number would get points on united?

In most cases, it's the operating metal that determines mileage eligibility, irrespective of the code.

LAX

Confirmed that you will earn 250 RDMs and that's it. You will not get anything from Mileage Plus, since it's not on CO metal. (Remember, a partner of a partner is not necessarily your partner).

Okay, thanks guys! I had no idea about the rule about operating airline..

To be very clear, you can no longer earn EQMs, either. Amtrak earning is now RDMs only. This changed with the SkyTeam->Star Alliance move.

Argh! :mad: Somehow I missed this. Is this the only example of a codeshare flight marketed by a particular airline not earning full elite qualification miles/points on said airline's own frequent flier program?

I would have done PHL-EWR instead of ZFV-EWR if I had done my homework properly, although it would have cost me a few extra $ for the PHL facility charge and transportation to PHL from 30th St. Station after arriving on a paid Amtrak "positioning segment". I also figured the train would be safer for a connection than a PHL-EWR turboprop flight. Perversely, the flight I would have booked on arrived 20 minutes early while my Amtrak train arrived EWR 20 minutes late...

Oh, and any idea how long the miles take to post? It's been 8 days since the first Amtrak codeshare segment and nada.

There are plenty of CO fares on LH operated flights that earn 50% EQMs so I don't think that the Amtrak example is the only one to not earn full credit, not by a long shot.

Sorry you missed out on a few miles; I hope it isn't the difference between levels for you at the end of the year.

Okay, interesting. The website only lists LH fare classes and there's a note at the bottom that says "mileage credit for travel on codeshare flights, including Elite Qualification Miles and Elite Qualification Points, is determined by the operating carriers booking classes of service."

So how do you know what the operating carrier's booking class of service is if you're booking it as a CO codeshare? IIRC, there have been issues of weird mappings of flights between marketing and operating carrier (e.g., a B fare on a CO codeshare that didn't map to a B fare on United which operated the flight).

I guess I was used to the AA style of codeshares, where if you book an AA flight, you earn miles as if you were flying on an AA flight. Much better system, IMHO.

Well, it's early enough that it won't be. I'll just have to adjust my travels and/or purchases of double/triple Elite Maximizier miles, so it may cost me a bit more.

CO codeshare flights on HA that are inter-island also do not earn EQMs.

Generally you do not. I've compiled a collection of mappings here but it is horribly incomplete.

Thats a great job SBM12 !!^^

Well, a big :td: to Continental (or perhaps it's a broader *A issue on this) for obfuscating the mileage-earning ability of codeshare flights. I remember with SkyTeam there were multiple charts, showing what, for example, a DL codeshare operated by AF would earn. It was a lot of data, but at least it was transparent.

And I thought the whole reason CO changed its fare structure alphabet was to align it with *A. :confused:

Well, apparently at some point CO is supposed to tell us what fare classes match to what. (this was talked about in other threads). However, we have not got any official word. Some FTers were able to call CO and find out some details (and SBM12 has compiled a lot of the information on his site).