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tarheelnj Jun 23, 2010 6:48 am

AVOD content - selective editing
 
I'm puzzled by how the programming on the AVOD is determined. Some of the movies appear to be edited (e.g., Shawshank Redemption had scenes removed appropriate to showing on network TV). I assumed that was because even if you exercise the Parental Controls on your child's screen, he/she can clearly see other screens nearby, particularly across the aisle one row up.

I noticed (it was hard to miss) the screen diagonally up from me was showing "Californication" and there were clearly :eek: topless scenes. What's the CO standard for content on the AVOD's?

I know if I were traveling with my kid sitting next to me and the guy by the window was reading a Playboy, I'd ask him to put it away. What's the protocol on that same person watching an innapropriate program that your kid can clearly see?

Richard Chen Jun 23, 2010 8:40 am

I think toplessness has been common in tv programming for a long time now, with regular toplessness in cable programming and soon to come to other networks, too. It's the inevitable slide in a world without absolute standards.

flg8rmatt Jun 23, 2010 8:47 am

The United States is one of the few places where topless-ness on TV is still considered for the most part inappropriate.

I would think protocol in this situation would be to try and change your (and your child's) seat.

wcalvert Jun 23, 2010 8:47 am


Originally Posted by Richard Chen (Post 14181987)
I think toplessness has been common in tv programming for a long time now, with regular toplessness in cable programming and soon to come to other networks, too. It's the inevitable slide in a world without absolute standards.

The only time you are going to get toplessness is premium channels a la Showtime, HBO, etc. Californication is a Showtime show. I had the same embarassing experience happen to me when I was flying IAH-LHR last March and was watching something when some (.)(.) showed up on screen. Got a stern look from the old lady sitting next to me. Whoops!

Hartmann Jun 23, 2010 8:49 am


Originally Posted by wcalvert (Post 14182028)
The only time you are going to get toplessness is premium channels a la Showtime, HBO, etc. Californication is a Showtime show. I had the same embarassing experience happen to me when I was flying IAH-LHR last March and was watching something when some (.)(.) showed up on screen. Got a stern look from the old lady sitting next to me. Whoops!

Was watching the Penn & Teller "Bullsh!t" show and had the same experience. The episode was about stress and all of the sudden there were a set of breasts on the screen.

tarheelnj Jun 23, 2010 8:56 am


Originally Posted by flg8rmatt (Post 14182027)
The United States is one of the few places where topless-ness on TV is still considered for the most part inappropriate.

I would think protocol in this situation would be to try and change your (and your child's) seat.

You're right about that - unless the woman in question is holding a gun. :) Seriously though, even in those parts of the world where TV toplessness is no big deal, parents still control the on/off switch, and you can't see what your neighbors are watching.

Changing a seat in midflight might be tough. No certainty it wouldn't happen again in the new seat.

flg8rmatt Jun 23, 2010 9:00 am


Originally Posted by tarheelnj (Post 14182082)
Changing a seat in midflight might be tough. No certainty it wouldn't happen again in the new seat.

This is true. Though if I am paying for a premium service, I am going to want unedited content. So I suppose it is a tough situation for the airline to be in.

I guess I would say that unless you are watching some sort of porn (which I can't imagine is even an option) the length of time breasts or other parts are on the screen should be minimal. If you catch your child constantly trying to take a peek in the hopes of catching something, maybe set them up with a show or book or whatever diverts their attention. Or give em some Bailey's and put em to sleep for the rest of the flight. :p

IndyDavid Jun 23, 2010 9:16 am

The CO AVOD version of "Up In The Air" has all the AA planes digitally re-painted green & blue with the titles & logos removed.

IAHtraveler Jun 23, 2010 9:34 am

My coworker & I had this discussion this morning because he said he was shocked when an unedited show had an 'adult image' for everyone to see. Personally, I don't think there's an easy answer because CO is not going to edit the LiveTV. I would suggest that those traveling with minors try to put the kiddo in a window seat, where they cannot see "across & up" and you can easily control what they're watching on their screen and yours. It's not perfect, but nothing in this world is.

pptp Jun 23, 2010 9:40 am


Originally Posted by IndyDavid (Post 14182183)
The CO AVOD version of "Up In The Air" has all the AA planes digitally re-painted green & blue with the titles & logos removed.

Seriously?!?!?! That's kind of dumb. Really, nobody cares.

I was in FC on a DC-10 a looong time ago and was watching Boogie Nights. Got to the (in)famous final scene and there it was, in all its prosthetic glory. Nervously glanced around to make sure no kiddies were watching.:eek:

tarheelnj Jun 23, 2010 9:42 am

I have a privacy filter on my laptop screen. When I use it, you have to be looking straight at the screen to see it. The person sitting next to me or across & behind sees a dark screen. Is there such a device that could be incorporated into the AVOD screen?

joshwex90 Jun 23, 2010 9:51 am

Two things about the editing, on in relation to other airlines mentioned, and one about inappropriate scenes.

I had heard that about "Up in the Air," and I was tempted to watch just to see the editing, but didn't bother. However, I did watch "The Proposal" which includes a flight from NYC-Alaska. I don't think they ever did specify which airport, though I'd venture a guess and say ANC. Now the interesting thing is, the only airline that flies to NYC from ANC is CI. (I know, I know, it's just a movie. But a lot of directors go for an "authentic" look.) In any case, only the underbelly of the plane was shown. (Now I didn't see the original movie, so I can't comment if this was different than the original movie, but I'd guess it was.) Upon arriving in Alaska, they took a connecting regional jet to Sitka I think? Either way, the name of that airline was prominently displayed, perhaps because it was a fictitous airline??

As for inapropriate language, nudity... AA edited "Up in the Air" to change George Clooney's "racist" line from "stand behind Asians" to "stand behind businessmen." Interesting. I personally watched "The Hangover" and during the credits, they show a ton of semi to fully nude pictures. I did notice a younger child looking onto the screen and quickly shut it off. While I personally didn't mind, I did take my surroundings into account. I don't know how other "U-25 Guys" would've reacted. But it did feel a little weird that CO would allow such content on such a public scene.

COEWR2587 Jun 23, 2010 9:57 am


Originally Posted by tarheelnj (Post 14182303)
I have a privacy filter on my laptop screen. When I use it, you have to be looking straight at the screen to see it. The person sitting next to me or across & behind sees a dark screen. Is there such a device that could be incorporated into the AVOD screen?

I've always wondered that. I would imagine it has some cost factor to the screen/installation which is why you don't see it on any planes

joshwex90 Jun 23, 2010 9:59 am


Originally Posted by pptp (Post 14182297)
Seriously?!?!?! That's kind of dumb. Really, nobody cares.

It's not a matter of whether anyone else cares. The editing is mentioned a lot somewhere in this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/commu...talkers-5.html, but I couldn't find everything, so the brief answer is: AA pays money to have the advertising of being prominently displayed in the movie. CO (as well as UA and DL) aren't about to give AA free advertising.

pptp Jun 23, 2010 10:11 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 14182415)
It's not a matter of whether anyone else cares. The editing is mentioned a lot somewhere in this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/commu...talkers-5.html, but I couldn't find everything, so the brief answer is: AA pays money to have the advertising of being prominently displayed in the movie. CO (as well as UA and DL) aren't about to give AA free advertising.

Good point.


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