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IAHtraveler Jun 23, 2010 10:27 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 14182415)
AA pays money to have the advertising of being prominently displayed in the movie. CO (as well as UA and DL) aren't about to give AA free advertising.

So should CO/UA/DL even show the movie then? The movie is basically set around AA, it's not like they're just a plane in the backdrop of one particular scene.

tarheelnj Jun 23, 2010 10:34 am

I guess you could take this whole "what's appropriate on an AVOD screen" issue one step further. The new Lay Flat beds have an iPod port, allowing you to show any content from your iPod on the AVOD screen. While this would only apply to BF, it still raises the issue that you could presumably watch anything (which could be seen by your neighbors). Have the FA's been given any guidance if there's a disagreement?

joshwex90 Jun 23, 2010 11:00 am


Originally Posted by IAHtraveler (Post 14182595)
So should CO/UA/DL even show the movie then? The movie is basically set around AA, it's not like they're just a plane in the backdrop of one particular scene.

I asked that same question. I guess though that it's not a movie about AA; it simply features heavy AA references as well as references to the Admiral's Club. However, if you think about it, it's just a movie with a plot that features George Clooney flying a lot and accessing the lounge. The basic premise of the movie remains unchanged. (I do agree though that CO and all these other airlines should simply not show it, but whatever.) What I am curious to know is how the edited movie deals with the scene near the end when he gets his 10 millionth mile; that's a pretty important scene. And it'd be kinda hard to whitewash AA outta that one...

bajrbajr Jun 23, 2010 11:18 am

A couple of years ago I watched the movie THE QUEEN in which the word “GOD” was beeped-out every time it was spoken…

I am not a very sensitive person when it comes to being offended by such things, but if I were, I might take offense to the fact that the word “GOD” was beeped-out. Why would CO find the title-name for the Christian god offensive?

I wonder do they beep all the times the names of deities of other religions are spoke in films?

Steph3n Jun 23, 2010 11:58 am

I noticed that on domestic flights it is edited, on international it is not so (at least my experience)

Watching Dexter on LiveTV 737, then on AVOD777, it is like a different show....

alanh Jun 23, 2010 1:26 pm

I imagine most of the movies are the "for airlines" edit, suitable for viewing on overhead screens even if they're actually on a VOD display. I wasn't aware that they edited out competing airlines, but then, most movies don't use real airlines anyway. In addition to adult material, they will also edit out references to air crashes (Rain Man is a typical example).

For language, strict editors may bleep out "in vain" curses, but leave lines where it's actually referring to a deity.

PHLGovFlyer Jun 23, 2010 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 14182845)
What I am curious to know is how the edited movie deals with the scene near the end when he gets his 10 millionth mile; that's a pretty important scene. And it'd be kinda hard to whitewash AA outta that one...

Wathed it on UA's AVOD recently and all AA related images were altered out. He was basically given a blank metallic card in the edited version.

bajrbajr Jun 23, 2010 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by alanh (Post 14183626)
For language, strict editors may bleep out "in vain" curses, but leave lines where it's actually referring to a deity.


in THE QUEEN the word "GOD" was never used in vein... and it was edited-out every time it was spoken, even in reference to a deity.

jadenus Jun 23, 2010 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by bajrbajr (Post 14182941)
Why would CO find the title-name for the Christian god offensive?

Well, like other members of America's cultural elite, airlines worship Pan, the Goat God.


I wonder do they beep all the times the names of deities of other religions are spoke in films?
How many times have you ever heard someone utter "Shiva H. Gishnu"?

tv_man Jun 23, 2010 2:53 pm

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Originally Posted by tarheelnj (Post 14182648)
I guess you could take this whole "what's appropriate on an AVOD screen" issue one step further. The new Lay Flat beds have an iPod port, allowing you to show any content from your iPod on the AVOD screen. While this would only apply to BF, it still raises the issue that you could presumably watch anything (which could be seen by your neighbors). Have the FA's been given any guidance if there's a disagreement?

This exact issue has been discussed, but it's no different than a passenger bringing their own IFE, as in a 17" laptop with inappropriate content. Maybe one of our resident F/A's can comment?

AVOD content is migrating to unedited, since parental controls are now available. Overhead video content is still edited, and as noted above, live television is what it is.

Finally, the new 15.4" screens in BF have view filters installed.

tarheelnj Jun 23, 2010 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by tv_man (Post 14184133)

Finally, the new 15.4" screens in BF have view filters installed.


How do they work? I was in a lay-flat last week and I could clearly see the screen across and up (which started this thread). Or are there new screens that not all the lay-flats have?

marklyon Jun 23, 2010 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer (Post 14183805)
Wathed it on UA's AVOD recently and all AA related images were altered out. He was basically given a blank metallic card in the edited version.

Which I suggest the combined UA/CO program send. Would love just a blank metal card. Maybe a bit of etching (name, number and private line) on the back.

joshwex90 Jun 23, 2010 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by tarheelnj (Post 14184218)
How do they work? I was in a lay-flat last week and I could clearly see the screen across and up (which started this thread). Or are there new screens that not all the lay-flats have?

Well if CO is already installing the new seats with everything they come with such as the new screens, I'd say that they're probably all the same. (Unless CO made a decision once some ships already featured the new seats to install them, but then I'd imagine that CO would've made some sort of announcement about the installation of "privacy screens.")

And I was also in the lie-flats on Monday, could see every other screen, though wasn't really looking as I was on the left side so my seat faced slightly inward to the left as oppose to the other 4 seats in the row which faced slightly to the right.

And if CO is indeed installing new privacy screens, there's no reason (except for money I guess?) to install them only in BF and not Y. If they do indeed want to protect kids, there are more kids, and more screens for them to watch in Y...

Art234 Jun 23, 2010 5:20 pm

CO/UA/DL's decision is only whether or not to show the film, not whether or not to edit out the AA references. This decision is made by the studio, with the participation and approval of the director, and possibly the producers, as well. If the filmmakers wish to make a version of the film available without the AA references, and CO wishes to play it, then that is between the filmmakers and CO.

pptp Jun 23, 2010 6:01 pm

While there is no black and white policy regarding PAX playing porn, we definitely would address any blatantly offensive behavior. It's a fine line when some of the CO provided movies show boobs. Now, if someone was watching hardcore porn, that's a line that most would agree goes over the line. Same goes for sex acts on the AC (especially now that we don't have blankets:eek:).


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