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CO 1E Jun 10, 2010 8:14 am


Originally Posted by walkerci (Post 14107392)
I sincerely hope that 1E remains an aisle seat in the first row.:confused:

First class seat numbers will not be changed.

sbm12 Jun 10, 2010 8:19 am


Originally Posted by steve64 (Post 14108562)
Reminds of when I first status matched from AA to CO (several years ago).
On my 1st CO flight as an Elite, I was upgraded to 3B.
So I plunk my happy bottom down into the bulkhead aisle seat....


Originally Posted by EWR764 (Post 14109762)
...At the door, the BP reader spit out a new seat assignment of 7A, which I assumed was the first row of Y like CO's 752. Pleased that the agent had seemingly kept her word, I boarded and settled into my seat on the window adjacent to the 2L door. Several minutes later, another passenger appeared, holding a seat assignment for 19A. Just as I began to motion the passenger back toward the middle of the Y cabin, I glanced at the smallish row number placard above me, and saw that 18/19 was indeed the first row of Y.

I wonder just how many of us have a similar story. My most recent "episode" was on a Copa flight just a couple months back. The aircraft config in F was just different enough between my outbound and return the next morning that I just plopped in to the seat I thought I was supposed to be in. Yeah, that was wrong. We all had a laugh and no big deal.

AZ_MISMAN Jun 10, 2010 8:30 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 14109794)
First class seat numbers will not be changed.

Tell that to PhillyPhlyer40. See post #11.

chasbondy Jun 10, 2010 8:33 am

You'd think they'd have better things to do with their time until a questionable actually gets approved

sbm12 Jun 10, 2010 8:52 am


Originally Posted by AZ_MISMAN (Post 14109874)
Tell that to PhillyPhlyer40. See post #11.

That was an aircraft swap where seats were reassigned. The numbers on the seats in the various locations in the F cabin did not change then and they are not changing now.


Originally Posted by chasbondy (Post 14109888)
You'd think they'd have better things to do with their time until a questionable actually gets approved

Yeah, because streamlining operations and making things work more smoothly is a bad idea. :confused:

xzh445 Jun 10, 2010 8:56 am


Originally Posted by AZ_MISMAN (Post 14109874)
Tell that to PhillyPhlyer40. See post #11.

PhillyPhlyer40's issue had nothing to do with how the rows are numbered. It had to do with there being less physical seats, due to equip change. He got downgraded. I am assuming that he was on lower priced tickets, or award, and the revenue/higher revenue seats remained. Not pleasant in any case, but not relevant to this discussion of renumbering the coach class sections.

xzh445 Jun 10, 2010 9:06 am


Originally Posted by chasbondy (Post 14109888)
You'd think they'd have better things to do with their time until a questionable actually gets approved

You referring to the merger? This was planned well before that was announced, and would have been implemented irrespective of the merger. What does the seat number matter, as long as it is numbered? And, if the same numbers for bulkhead and exit row happen to be the same on all narrowbody (ie consistency) isn't that a good thing? Do an aircraft swap, and you are much more likely to keep your exit row seat.

PhillyPhlyer40 Jun 10, 2010 9:31 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14107912)
Well, one of the main points of the switch is to try to prevent situations like that from happening.

I was previously in 1EF,2EF and the switch from 738=737 still had 1/2,E/F, and still got messed up! So yes, I see that this switch may not work either! Then again, I left my pompoms at home.



Originally Posted by Critic (Post 14107914)
Not sure I see how this is the same situation. The renumbering effort is designed to make the Y cabin's 'premium' row numbers consistent across the narrowbody fleet, so that if you're in an exit row before an aircraft swap, you'll STILL be in an exit row after the swap. In your case, the swap resulted in a plane with fewer physical F seats and you were involuntarily downgraded. That would have happened regardless of the row numbering.

Try re-reading my post. I MAINTAINED F seats, yet we were scattered throughout the cabin. So-If I had 1/2 E/F, and now have 1A, 2F, 3B, 3E, is that a downgrade???? :confused::confused: How does "fewer F seats" make the seats reserved where their are still seats after the switch get moved? Does CO have the ability to see if I was on award tix vs. someone on a paid ticket and move them to my seats, WITHOUT a downgrade??? I really dont think so, because if so, as a Plat* on a paid F ticket I wouldn't have been moved during a previous SEA-EWR mix up!



Originally Posted by xzh445 (Post 14110029)
PhillyPhlyer40's issue had nothing to do with how the rows are numbered. It had to do with there being less physical seats, due to equip change. He got downgraded. I am assuming that he was on lower priced tickets, or award, and the revenue/higher revenue seats remained. Not pleasant in any case, but not relevant to this discussion of renumbering the coach class sections.



Please re-read, as above! (And this is a well-known issue)

sbm12 Jun 10, 2010 10:04 am


Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40 (Post 14110254)
I was previously in 1EF,2EF and the switch from 738=737 still had 1/2,E/F, and still got messed up! So yes, I see that this switch may not work either! Then again, I left my pompoms at home.

What pom poms? I noted that for my reservations made before this change went into the system but for travel after my seats were preserved. That's not cheering so much as noting that maybe they finally have it working.

CO 1E Jun 10, 2010 10:14 am


Originally Posted by AZ_MISMAN (Post 14109874)
Tell that to PhillyPhlyer40. See post #11.

I read that as an equipment swap, not a change in numbering of the F seats.

sbm12 Jun 10, 2010 10:36 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 14110532)
I read that as an equipment swap, not a change in numbering of the F seats.

Indeed, but the point of this move is that an equipment swap won't reassign passengers who have a seat that also exists on the new aircraft. That happened to PhillyPhlyer40 and it has happened to many others here on FT and reported many times.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic that CO is making this change because they've also figured out a way to stop reassigning passengers from seats that exist on the new aircraft. But that's my theory here.

doobierw Jun 10, 2010 11:34 am


Originally Posted by goldelite8 (Post 14104343)
Can CO really change their entire fleet overnight? ......... Has CO converted any planes yet?

Yes, and yes.

CAL started the process a couple of months back and had the new numbers installed, with temporary stickers placed on top of them. What you have seen as the 'old' numbers for the past couple of months were really just stickers sitting on top of the new numbers.

Last night as aircraft were parked for the night the temp stickers were removed, and the new numbers were revealed.

At least that was the plan. I sat in exit row # 20 this morning, immediately behind row #15.

DRW :cool:

sbm12 Jun 10, 2010 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by doobierw (Post 14111054)
What you have seen as the 'old' numbers for the past couple of months were really just stickers sitting on top of the new numbers.

Last night as aircraft were parked for the night the temp stickers were removed, and the new numbers were revealed.

That is definitely an interesting and rather :cool: bit of trivia. Way faster to have a maintenance guy walk down the aisle and pull stickers than install new tags.

Clincher Jun 10, 2010 2:18 pm

Check in time today allowed me to position a non-elite into exit row seats today without paying. The 757-500 seat map shows row #'s skipping from 14 to 20.
Even though it says he is in row 21, labled an exit row and he had to agree to fulfill responsibilties that go with sitting in an exit row I have a feeling he is not in exit row tomorrow :)

alanh Jun 10, 2010 2:46 pm

The break between F and Y probably won't be an issue, but I'll bet the break before the exit rows will. "My seat is 20F and I'm at row 15, so I go 5 more rows." Wrong!

And I see they're still skipping row 13. Is that really an issue with most people? I actually tried deliberately booking row 13 on other airlines for a while to see if I'd get more empty seats next to me. It didn't help.


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