DTW Gates Moving
 

Discussed what might happen to the CO gates in Concourse B at McNamarra Terminal with a couple GA's last week. They stated that they had been advised that CO would move to the new North Terminal in late Feb/early Mar 2010. At present, no PC or RCC at North. Bummer, but sort of expected. makes staying at the Westin overnite for 6 AM IAH flight difficult since the Westin will not have direct access to the North terminal. Hopefully we can get a couple more DTW-IAH flights on the schedule plus the return of better CLE connects.

There are reports on the UA forum that the Lufthansa lounge at DTW lets UA *Golds in, even on a domestic itinerary. Downside is that the lounge is only open for a few hours in the afternoon.

Of course that lounge would permit *Gs in; that is in line with the *A policies. As for whether CO is actually moving over there or not, CO Insider said "nothing in the works" or something similar a couple days ago.

I only know what I was told by the GA's. They seemed pretty sure about it. Personally, I hope CO stays at McNamarra.

I doubt that would happen, it would be like your ex-wife living with you after the divorce with her new husband.

LOL ^

I see on the terminal map that there are new gates near United's gates opening summer 2009. Are those gates where Continental is headed? Is D1-D6 enough for United and Continental? Could US Airways join them at that end of the concourse and share a club? Too logical, I suppose ;) The lack of a club is a real nuisance as I commute EWR-DTW and often end up waiting in DTW for EWR weather to clear.

unfortunately the Lufthansa lounge is in the McNamara terminal (directly across from the SC Main Club)

There should be a new one in DTW now, given that Lufthansa has now moved out of the McNamera Terminal to the North Terminal. Lufthansa and Royal Jordanian moved to the North when it opened last year.

The LH lounge was relocated to the North Terminal late last year.

Last I looked at the situation in the new North terminal there were several open gates, and several more to be available next spring. If memory serves, and feel free to correct me if you know, but CO didn't have that many gates in B, but did have some more barbie gates in C. I don't know if North would have enough gates for both.

This info from an article published by the airport authority shortly after North opened. I have only been through North once since it opened.

While I get the divorce/new wife thing, on the other hand is there any pressure for a move? It's not like the new Delta North needs more hub capacity in the upper midwest.

The lack of a club for CO flyers will be evident since CO is no longer Skyteam. I don't know if there are any clubs in North at all -- clearly may be wrong feel free to correct.


Oh well, time will tell.

There are 8 unassigned gates @ North, with the possibility of adding 5 more, per the Airport Authority.

It only makes sense for CO to move to the North terminal. All other * partners are there and I would hope between them they could support a lounge which is needed there since SC's are no longer available.

Has anyone had to connect from McNamarra to North or vice versa? Is there a shuttle or something that keeps you inside the security zone (ie; no additional TSA rousting)? I've only flown NWA/CO since McNamarra opened so have no idea.

There is a curbside shuttle. As far as I know, that is the only way to connect between McNamara and North terminal. No transportation within the security zone exists. This is why CO will have to move at least some of its gates to North. It's just not feasible to make connections between McNamara and North.

The curbside shuttle between terminals departs every 10 minutes and is fairly regular. It also makes a stop at the Westin. Here's the map.

It's doubtful there will be much Star connecting traffic at DTW. The vast bulk of it will be O&D, so being in different terminals isn't much of an issue.

It's doubtful there will be much Star connecting traffic at DTW. The vast bulk of it will be O&D, so being in different terminals isn't much of an issue.

It is an issue if you want lounge access and don't want to buy an SC membership if you have a lifetime PC membership.

I also asked this question in DTW on 10/31 and got the same answer from a GA: Feb/March, 2010 CO will move to the North Terminal.

For those that take the evening DTW-IAH flight or the 5ish flight to EWR, the LH lounge is fantastic and open daily 3.5 hours before the LH flight. I'll take this lounge any day over a lame PC/RCC. PC membership or *G domestic or intl * itinerary gets you in.

hmm..good to know....unfortunately over the past year DL has removed/downgraded many flights to DTW so I'm being forced to route to ATL (LK...I'm coming home again...get the PC in IAH ready!!!)

Red Tail Renegade Seeks Asylum in *A
 

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I guess since RedTail is no more....

Welcome home.

Why is getting into the LH lounge on a domestic itinerary "in line with *A policies"? I thought you got into Star lounges only while on a same-day international ticket.

*G rules are a bit different than ST+ rules after reading the fine print.

*G gets access to any *G lounge on a same-day *A flight. The exceptions to this apply only to UA/US/CO *Gs and only at UA/US/CO clubs. Given that the LH lounge at DTW (ATL is another one that should work fine too) is a *G lounge that is not a US/UA/CO lounge, any *G on a *A flight can get in.

Very interesting. Although the way I read the rules on the Star Alliance website at http://www.staralliance.com/en/benef...access-policy/ (which haven't been updated to include CO), if you were on an international itinerary, you could not access the LH lounge at DTW, but you can do so on a domestic itinerary:

"United and US Airways [and Continental] Star Alliance Gold customers may only access the Red Carpet Club and US Airways Clubs [and President's Clubs] within the U.S. when travelling in conjunction with a Star Alliance international flight." (I added the bracketed, underlined language to include CO.)

You read them wrong. The paragraph you quoted clearly only covers RCCs, USACs and PC's. They are the exceptions to the rule that any *G can access any *G lounge when flying on any same-day *A flight.

Exactly....(unfortunately)...ah well, my first trip through EWR all on mainline coming up next week :D

So, What everyone is saying is that there is a *A club (Lufthansa) in North and domestic CO *A Gold can access it if flying say DTW-IAH on CO?

Too bad McNamara can't run a secure shuttle like they do at IAH. I see no reason why that can't happen.

I see what you mean. I guess it's the word "only" that I was focused on: "United and US Airways Star Alliance Gold customers may only access the Red Carpet Club and US Airways Clubs within the U.S. when travelling in conjunction with a Star Alliance international flight." I read that to mean that those are the exclusive clubs that you can use when you are travelling internationally as a *Gold. But you're right, I was reading it as if it said "may access only..." instead of "may only access".

So, the answer is, what? If we fly CO domestic out of DTW North, we can or cannot access the Lufthansa lounge??