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Continental Exposed Oct 19, 2009 3:09 pm

Continental Exposed
 
Folks, in the coming weeks, I will be exposing Continental Airlines.

This week, I will start with EUA.

Have you noticed that earlier this year, battlefield upgrades were extremely hard to clear, even for Platinum Elites? You saw a large amount of first class inventory available prior to departure yet at the 24 hour mark, F inventory went down to almost 0 instantly?

Continental screwed up big time.

Earlier this year, Continental switched their fare classes from the old booking classes to the current F, A, C, D, W, S, T, L etc in order to match Star Alliance. What you didn't know was that during the conversion process, they screwed up.

We all know the old F was the inventory for EUA/Elite upgrades. If F was available at the EUA window or at check in, it was yours. R was the discounted first class code.

The new booking classes, however, changed the F to full fare first class and R to EUA/elite upgrade. They changed Continental.com successfully. Unforunately, they did not change the upgrade algorithm correctly on pda.continental.com.

What does that mean? If an elite member checked in on pda.continental.com, the system automatically gave the message "As an elite member, you are eligible for an upgrade, if there is a seat available, would you like the upgrade?" Most people would click yes. And if they did, because Continental didn't bother changing the algorithm on pda.continental.com, any elite who was eligible for upgrade was upgraded INSTANTLY when they clicked that button. pda.continental.com was still setup to look for F inventory to upgrade (the old upgrade bucket), instead of the new R. And since F was the full fare booking class, if there was a seat available, pda.continental.com would upgrade the elite.

This resulted in Silver elites beating Gold and Platinum elites during battlefield upgrade when they checked in on pda.continental.com anytime from 24 hours to 2 hours prior to departure. So, those poor platinums waited and waited at the gate only to see F inventory went down one by one until they lost the upgrade. @:-)

This occured for several months. Continental finally caught in in late April/Early May and fixed the problem.

Many people knew about this issue on Flyertalk but no one bothered to mention anything. Because, they would lost their freebie upgrades.

More Continental Exposed to come next week...

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Oct 19, 2009 3:15 pm

Yarr, I knew them Long John Silvers were after me upgrades, matey. http://www.rolleye.com/pirate.gif

Steph3n Oct 19, 2009 3:19 pm

http://rolleye.com/angelpray.jpg gives me upgradez.

Hartmann Oct 19, 2009 3:28 pm

Excellent post. I anxiously await your reply.

</sarcasm>




I don't even know where to begin... :rolleyes:

CAPTMARK Oct 19, 2009 3:32 pm

How about some info. on the boring "cold plates" please

sbm12 Oct 19, 2009 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by Continental Exposed (Post 12672640)
This occured for several months. Continental finally caught in in late April/Early May and fixed the problem.

You're reporting on a loophole that was open for two months and which has now been closed for 6? :confused:

Thanks for the breaking news.

belynch Oct 19, 2009 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by Continental Exposed (Post 12672640)
Because, they would lost their freebie upgrades.

I can haz upgrade? :-:

FT Lurker Oct 19, 2009 3:44 pm

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9630/4.7.1.40 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

Popcorn, table 1.

carvalh2 Oct 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Coming to read daily FT posts is making me feel more and more like I am having a Groundhog Day :rolleyes:

carsonheim Oct 19, 2009 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 12672853)
I can haz upgrade? :-:

you can haz cheezburger

carvalh2 Oct 19, 2009 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by Continental Exposed (Post 12672640)
Unforunately, they did not change the upgrade algorithm correctly on pda.continental.com.

:eek:I blame this on the EWR attitude:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: This was so much fun I can't wait till the next edition. I say we suggest the tittle for the next post. I will start: "CO EXPOSED: HOT TOWELS AT MEAL TIME BURN SENSITIVE HANDS! TA DA DA!"

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Oct 19, 2009 3:54 pm

Assuming everything in here is 100% accurate, I don't see how it reflects poorly on CO beyond the fact that an IT glitch occurred. It sounds like they encountered an IT glitch and fixed it. Granted, it impacted the EUA system that we all hold dear, but I seem to recall CO Insider even mentioning a few months back that there was an issue with EUA, and that measures were being taken to fix it. It would make sense for CO not to publicize the exact glitch, as that would only encourage more people to abuse the system whilst the error was being fixed. Granted, I guess CO could have just suspended EUAs altogether during the bug-fixing period. I can only imagine the apocalyptic scenes on the CO Forum had that happened.

Sounds like a few bad eggs may have kept this to themselves and abused it. I'd say that reflects more on the people who did abuse the system than on CO.

trm2 Oct 19, 2009 3:56 pm

I thought this was going to be about new uniforms for the FAs.

Steph3n Oct 19, 2009 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by trm2 (Post 12672974)
I thought this was going to be about new uniforms for the FAs.

:eek: I don't even want to see some of them exposed! AT ALLLLLL. We are coming on the winter season, hoping they will cover up some more.

trm2 Oct 19, 2009 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12672981)
:eek: I don't even want to see some of them exposed! AT ALLLLLL. We are coming on the winter season, hoping they will cover up some more.

Some of them?

TommyC80 Oct 19, 2009 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by trm2 (Post 12672974)
I thought this was going to be about new uniforms for the FAs.

How about mini skirts? Come to think of it, maybe that's not such a good idea most of the time! :eek:

JetSet78 Oct 19, 2009 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by Continental Exposed (Post 12672640)
More Continental Exposed to come next week...

This was earth shattering, and what a cliffhanger, too! :rolleyes:

chasbondy Oct 19, 2009 4:16 pm

>>>This resulted in Silver elites beating Gold and Platinum elites during battlefield upgrade >>>>>

This is the best news I've heard all year. I'm all for it.

CO DCA Oct 19, 2009 4:18 pm

I knew Geraldo Rivera flew CO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r5xBMNfOl4

chasbondy Oct 19, 2009 4:19 pm

I wonder how many calls Dewey, Cheetum and Howe will be getting for compensation or class action.

Steve GadFly Oct 19, 2009 4:27 pm

I wonder if this guy likes movies???

Steph3n Oct 19, 2009 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by TommyC80 (Post 12673029)
How about mini skirts? Come to think of it, maybe that's not such a good idea most of the time! :eek:

they are going with blue parkas now, as the uniform, easy for this:
http://rolleye.com/small/flashf.gif

bobblevins Oct 19, 2009 4:45 pm

What a joke!

jrzyshawn Oct 19, 2009 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by Continental Exposed (Post 12672640)
So, those poor platinums waited and waited at the gate only to see F inventory went down one by one until they lost the upgrade

http://rolleye.com/popcorn.jpg

rolov Oct 19, 2009 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12672885)
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9630/4.7.1.40 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

Popcorn, table 1.

FT Lurker is not a lurker :-:

fozz Oct 19, 2009 5:24 pm

Wow, just wow.

As a plat, my upgrades have been coming through as they should, with the exception of one. That one was another issue which was identified.

tasnam Oct 19, 2009 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12672885)
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9630/4.7.1.40 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

Popcorn, table 1.

FT Lurker...I guess I do not understand your reply. :confused:

FT Lurker Oct 19, 2009 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by tasnam (Post 12673533)
FT Lurker...I guess I do not understand your reply. :confused:

I apologise, tasnam.

I was using the mobile site and it must have posted to the wrong thread.

:o

HeathrowGuy Oct 19, 2009 5:59 pm

Clearly some believe it is time for "silly season". We must not fall to the temptation of their distraction. This is a time important time of CHANGE for Continental, and we must focus on the road ahead.

LukeSkywaiter Oct 19, 2009 6:24 pm

I started sweating when I read the title... but then when I realized he wasn't posting those pictures, I breathed a sigh of relief...

CopperSteve Oct 19, 2009 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by carvalh2 (Post 12672949)
:eek:I blame this on the EWR attitude:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: This was so much fun I can't wait till the next edition. I say we suggest the tittle for the next post. I will start: "CO EXPOSED: HOT TOWELS AT MEAL TIME BURN SENSITIVE HANDS! TA DA DA!"

YES! This does need to be exposed! On my last CO flight, the hot towel was soooo hot, it singed the tips of my fingers! I am convinced this was done to de-sensitize my fingers to temperature, so I would not notice my nuts were cold.

Shenanigans!!!!! I can haz compensashun?

Steph3n Oct 19, 2009 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by LukeSkywaiter (Post 12673771)
I started sweating when I read the title... but then when I realized he wasn't posting those pictures, I breathed a sigh of relief...

dun worry I got em!
http://rolleye.com/small/flasher.gif

FT Lurker Oct 19, 2009 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 12673422)
FT Lurker is not a lurker :-:

I resemble that remark

brendog Oct 19, 2009 6:32 pm

I can't wait until the fact that CO is using biofuels made from kittens is exposed... They apparently had overbought kitten futures during the Lorenzo era.

MileHighGuy Oct 19, 2009 6:51 pm

Why not post on your main flyertalk handle, instead of creating a new one?

brendog Oct 19, 2009 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by MileHighGuy (Post 12673942)
Why not post on your main flyertalk handle, instead of creating a new one?

Wouldn't that be contrary to the FT TOS?

MileHighGuy Oct 19, 2009 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by brendog (Post 12673970)
Wouldn't that be contrary to the FT TOS?

UH LOL?

colpuck Oct 19, 2009 7:15 pm

http://rolleye.com/popcorn.jpg

SuperG1955 Oct 19, 2009 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by LukeSkywaiter (Post 12673771)
I started sweating when I read the title... but then when I realized he wasn't posting those pictures, I breathed a sigh of relief...

Are you referring to a certain FA's emoticon on another web site? (Not yours).

Hartmann Oct 19, 2009 7:19 pm

Since the poster apparently has so much access I'd like to see the algorithm that CO apparently screwed up.


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