That's a great idea! But whoever does this should register the car in a state with more lax liability insurance laws than NY. For New York-registered cars (same in VA and a few other states), the owner's liability insurance is primary regardless of who's driving. I'm sure we're all good drivers, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for other people's accidents. :)

What about a bicycle?

Works for me.

I don't know...with the amount of alcohol it's going to take to make these B1900 flights bearable, I'm not sure a car OR bike will be a good idea!!! :D

Well, if you look around once you land I'm sure you'll see some tractors that you could possibly hitch a ride on. :p

Getting to MSS
 

If I understand things correctly, the plane stops at ART, then goes on to MSS then returns, picks up ART passengers, and continues on to PIT.

So, I want to add a new Airport - MSS - to my collection. Who is going to go THERE and take pictures? How many trips to ART do I have to take before the same pilot agrees to let me hitch a ride to MSS and back?

Do I really have to shell out $216 to fly ART-MSS-ART while on my $2 flight from SEA-PIT-ART-PIT-SEA?

If anyone has any luck flying along to the next stop with some pilot on their immediate turn, let us know!

What, you are not interested in Ogdensburg? ;) :D
US Flight 4653
14:30-15:55 PIT-ART
16:10-16:38 ART-OGS
16:50-17:15 OGS-MSS
US Flight 4654
17:30-18:05 MSS-ART
18:25-19:55 ART-PIT

I didn't know about OGS. Thanks for pointing it out!

That makes it even worse! I've got to see them both. If they are downstream from ART, how tiny must they be!

The best I've found is $211 ART-MSS-OGS-ART.
10:45-11:20
11:35-12:00
12:10:12:35
just in time for heading back to PIT. Now I wonder if the cheap fares would have allowed OGS and MSS as well. I'd have got another 1000 miles per round trip AND not had to sit at the picnic table for two hours in November cold all for the same price.

And to make things worse, the connection is 10 minutes in OGS, and the minimum legal connection is 15 minutes, so I can't even buy an immediate turn ticket, and all my PIT tickets are immediate turn!

Does anyone have any bright ideas how to freeload getting to MSS and OGS?

Actually, if you had a ticket all the way to MSS, you'd just get one segment. The through flight would credit just as one flight, with one mileage amount. You'd have to have bought separate tickets between the points, and then I suppose it would have worked out. I couldn't find any of the cheap fares to OGS or MSS, though. Aside from not getting to visit those other airports, you're better off just getting off in Watertown... less time riding in the B1900D, and you get the same amount of miles.


Well, despite being a small plane without a flight attendant operating into small airports, it's still an airline flight. Manifest must be correct, same accountability for boarding passes and people on board... paperwork must still match up. Unless you're on the flight legitimately, near impossible for you to ride up to MSS/OGS without somebody risking their job for you. Too bad though, I'd have liked to visit Massena as well.

I can't get an Enterprise rental with airport pickup to price out at less than $39.95 a day with a two day minimum. We arrive and depart while they are closed for the weekend, Saturday afternoon and Sunday noon.

I will look forward to reports from those who booked at lower prices. I used the FBO Brouty Aviation option, both on the phone and internet, and there was nothing from Enterprise for ART pickup and return for less than $39.95.

So, we will be cabbing it. After some investigation and input from a local (thanks, B6_Flyer), we are staying in Sackets Harbor at the Ontario Place Hotel. $79 for one night, May 14. There was no internet availability, but a phone call got us a room.

Sackets Harbor is closer to ART than Watertown, and there are actually things to see and do, good restaurants, etc. It's on the Black River Bay, and the Ontario Place overlooks the water.

So, the mileage run is now a mini-vacation, thanks to my wife. I'm just glad she will do these once in awhile. :)

Any other reports of trips to ART??

Ok folks, it's go time....

I'm going to ART on Wednesday. Anybody want me to start a log or something and leave it with the US people? If you'd like, I've got a bunch of nice plastic US luggage tags I'll leave with the US station manager and ask him to pass them out upon request.

I volunteer to donate a notebook or something for people to sign in with.
I've got trips to ART on this Wed (Apr 27th) and again next Wed the 4th of May.

How about some more pictures? Maybe some of PIT, the people in ART... whatever you can think of. The more pictures the better!! :)

I think a log would be great! Either if US is willing (they may not wish to be constantly reminded of the miscue :D ) or somebody said in a cache out by the picnic table. Then it can be sent to join Freddie Jr. at the end!

I dunno what the logistics of this would be, but I like the idea anyway. I'm not going until Labor Day or I'd do it myself.

I'm going again tomorrow, I'll take a few more pictures.


I'll take a notebook of some sort tomorrow and will enquire as to the logistics of leaving it there with them at the airport.