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Dovster Oct 7, 2023 1:02 am

War in Israel -- again.
 
For the past three hours Israel has been in a shooting war -- again. Hamas says it has fired 5000 rockets from Gaza, most aimed at the Israeli south and a smaller number at the country's center. There have also been reports of terrorist infiltrators from the West Bank. Where I live, in the far north of the country, it has been quiet so far but as Hezbollah (in Lebanon) is the best-armed of the terrorist groups, and has long said it will attack when it feels the time is ripe, the IDF is on high alert in the area.

I have no relatives living in areas which are most at risk and none in the north. Moreover at age 77, with nobody who depends on me, I consider myself to be among the most expendable and notified the community's head of security that if anyone needs to be taken for medical aid, or if the kibbutz needs a driver for any reason. that I am available and willing to drive anywhere.

While the IDF has (reportedly) already begun air operations against Gaza, and the entire nation is on "war alert" status, the government has not yet decided what action to take, it will be meeting this afternoon to decide what to do.

I am posting this on Community Buzz, and not on Omni, because I want this thread (as was the one in 2006) to be focused on how it impacks residents (on both sides of the border) and foreign tourists now in Israel or planning to come here. If you want to argue about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, please open an Omni/PR thread for that.

Dovster Oct 7, 2023 1:06 am

I just received an email from the US Embassy in Jerusalem reading as follows:

The U.S. Embassy is closely monitoring the security situation as a result of rockets fired from Gaza across southern and central Israel, including Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and the infiltration of Hamas militants. The U.S. Embassy is aware that there have been casualties as a result of these incidents. U.S. citizens are reminded to remain vigilant and take appropriate steps to increase their security awareness as security incidents, including mortar and rocket fire, often take place without warning.

U.S. Embassy personnel are currently sheltering in place. U.S. government personnel continue to be prohibited from travel to Gaza and areas within seven (7) miles of Gaza.

Mrp Alert Oct 7, 2023 12:59 pm

Relatively quiet here in central Tel Aviv near Dizengoff Circle. 2 red alerts this morning and then a few this evening. One impact / interception very close to us was very loud. As we do not have safe rooms or a bomb shelter in our building, we are all hanging out in the stairwell. There’s also a parking garage across the street if anything ever got really serious.

We just cured our daughter’s jet lag from our America trip and now the terrorists are screwing it all up! At least we are safe and at home. It’s much worse in the south.

Hope all is well with you [MENTION=22696]Dovster[/MENTION]. I still owe you a visit sometime.

cockpitvisit Oct 7, 2023 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 35643891)
Moreover at age 77, with nobody who depends on me, I consider myself to be among the most expendable and notified the community's head of security that if anyone needs to be taken for medical aid, or if the kibbutz needs a driver for any reason. that I am available and willing to drive anywhere.

I would be scared to death to be driven around by someone who considers himself expendable :D

I hope you are safe and that the Hamas attack is not a distracting maneuver for a later attack from the North...

Canarsie Oct 7, 2023 3:54 pm

My thoughts are with you, Dovster.

Stay safe.

nk15 Oct 7, 2023 4:13 pm

There are some flight cancellations, it seems...


AEGEAN would like to inform that due to recent developments is canceling all flights to and from Ben Gurion Airport of Tel Aviv as of today and for the next 48 hours. Passengers with tickets to Tel Aviv are entitled to either a full refund or ticket change at no cost.

dedehans Oct 7, 2023 4:46 pm

I have been thinking about you all day and wondering how you are doing. Please keep us up to date. I am not on FT that often but thought this would be the best place to find you Dov. xoxodedehans

TWA884 Oct 7, 2023 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by nk15 (Post 35645555)
There are some flight cancellations, it seems...

Actually, quite a few.

Major airlines cancel dozens of flights to Tel Aviv amid war

American Airlines, Air France, Lufthansa, Emirates, Ryanair and Aegan Airlines are among those pulling flights.

Air France says it has halted Tel Aviv flights “until further notice.”
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In Warsaw, Polish carrier LOT says it has also canceled a flight to Tel Aviv today.
So have United and Delta, according to CBS News.

Efrem Oct 7, 2023 6:52 pm

This from a cousin in Kibbutz Yizre'el (in the northern part of Israel, near Afula for those familiar with the country's geography). The [...] is a redaction to stay on-topic for this thread. The cousin and his wife have five kids.


Nitsan and I are well. We are glued to the tv.

Nimrod received his discharge from reserves two weeks ago. He sent a request to continue but it was refused.

I don't know what with my daughter's partners, I suspect that Hadas' Ari is already too old, Shaked's David is an only son so he has never been a combat soldier. We are waiting to hear what is with Iyliy's Tsur and Meitar's Omer. Iyliyl and Tsur are in Mitspe Rimon , south of Gaza and reasonably far. Meitar and Omer are in Ashkelon sitting without electricity.

One member of the kibbutz lost an aunt who was murdered at Kibbutz Reim; another has a sister and brother in law in Kfar Aza where by last reports there are still terrorists.

All the small towns in the south have Arab residents. On tv now an Arab resident of Ofakim told of the murder of his sister [...].

There is an official announcement of 40 dead and 800 wounded. These are probably reported cases. There are probably plenty of unreported as yet,

Ring when you get a chance,

SanDiego1K Oct 9, 2023 7:55 am

I appreciate long time FlyerTalkers Dovster and Mrp Alert letting us know they are safe. For any of you currently in Israel, please let us know how you are. For travelers, are you stranded in Israel? Are you attempting to visit Israel and now unable to do so?

Repeating Dov's guidelines for this thread:


Originally Posted by Dovster
I am posting this on Community Buzz, and not on Omni, because I want this thread (as was the one in 2006) to be focused on how it impacks residents (on both sides of the border) and foreign tourists now in Israel or planning to come here. If you want to argue about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, please open an Omni/PR thread for that.


Traveller Oct 9, 2023 8:36 am

Dovster, Mrp Alert and anyone else in the area, please keep us up to date on how you all are doing.

Canarsie Oct 9, 2023 9:23 am


Originally Posted by Mrp Alert (Post 35645187)
Relatively quiet here in central Tel Aviv near Dizengoff Circle. 2 red alerts this morning and then a few this evening. One impact / interception very close to us was very loud. As we do not have safe rooms or a bomb shelter in our building, we are all hanging out in the stairwell. There’s also a parking garage across the street if anything ever got really serious.

We just cured our daughter’s jet lag from our America trip and now the terrorists are screwing it all up! At least we are safe and at home. It’s much worse in the south.

I should have said that my thoughts are also with you, Mrp Alert.

Stay safe — and please forgive my oversight.

I am also concerned for BEYFlyer, who is based in Beirut...

pbiflyer Oct 9, 2023 9:24 am

If there are any US visitors there now:

SHARE INFO: I’m getting many calls from US citizens visiting Israel trying to get home. Here is what we know so far.
1.Any US citizen in need of help please fill this out: https://cacms.state.gov/s/crisis-intake
2.This is best place I’ve found for flight info: https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/tlv/departures

https://x.com/AndyKimNJ/status/1711381047122743624?s=20

dand99 Oct 9, 2023 9:41 am

A Hamas rocket landed near the airport today....
Seems to be mostly El Al and Arkia flying, very few foreign airlines (unsurprisingly)

jabez Oct 9, 2023 10:11 am

Be safe Dovster
 
If I recall correctly many years ago you gave us may updates on bombings near you. I hope all goes well. I am do to arrive there in 3 weeks. Hopefully , all has calmed down before that.


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