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TWA884 Oct 17, 2023 9:46 am


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 35670817)
Turkish is flying to Russia.

But they have suspended all of their flights to TLV. They are also playing games with rescheduling/refunding reservations to and from TLV; however, that is for discussion in another thread and forum.

Mrp Alert Oct 17, 2023 10:13 am

For money transfer, Wise should work with the post office bank. You just need to get their IBAN info and it will go right in. I’ll dm you a referral.

As for the 15 year old, how do you feel about adopting a child for 2-3 years until she joins the army or does national service?

Dovster Oct 17, 2023 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Mrp Alert (Post 35670954)

As for the 15 year old, how do you feel about adopting a child for 2-3 years until she joins the army or does national service?

It would not be easy for me, but I would agree to do it.

Jailer Oct 17, 2023 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 35670968)
It would not be easy for me, but I would agree to do it.

Or, check if Israel has emancipated minors’ statutes.

vasantn Oct 17, 2023 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 35670870)
But it is not flying to her home city in Siberia, where she has an apartment she can live in. The question is whether she would buy her ticket from Turkish or from Aeroflot.

The other problem is the 15-year-old daughter. She hates being called "Russian" and everything about Russia. She is completely Israeli. She will not want to return to Russia.

When she was 7-years-old she decided that I am her grandfather and still refers to me as such. Should her parents require her to return with them? If she wants to stay in Israel, should I offer to let her live in my house? Can a 15-year-old girl be comfortable living with a 77-year-old man and (not now, but perhaps in a year or two) have to take care of him?

Personally, I think it's crazy that they want to go back to Russia; especially Siberia.

Skyman65 Oct 17, 2023 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by vasantn (Post 35672274)
Personally, I think it's crazy that they want to go back to Russia; especially Siberia.

Maybe somethings are scarier than Siberian winter.

Mrp Alert Oct 18, 2023 6:18 am


Originally Posted by Jailer (Post 35671772)
Or, check if Israel has emancipated minors’ statutes.

I would not condone this. Israel is not the easiest place to live and a 15 year old is not equipped to make it as an adult outside of a kibbutz situation.

TomMM Oct 19, 2023 4:20 am


Originally Posted by Skyman65 (Post 35672436)
Maybe somethings are scarier than Siberian winter.

Would the husband be eligible to be called to duty in Ukraine?

Dovster Oct 19, 2023 8:49 am


Originally Posted by Jailer (Post 35671772)
Or, check if Israel has emancipated minors’ statutes.

Even if it is possible, it is not necessary. Her parents could give me power of attorney to make medical decisions for her, allow her to join the military at age 17 (if she wants), etc.


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 35676109)
Would the husband be eligible to be called to duty in Ukraine?

He does not know -- we spoke about it this morning. He does not want to leave Israel, but if his wife insists, he will agree.

Skyman65 Oct 19, 2023 10:43 am


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 35676109)
Would the husband be eligible to be called to duty in Ukraine?

I have a Russian coworker here in Taiwan who is facing this same question. He does not want to go back home for fear that he will be drafted (his brother was drafted early in the war, and was KIA within a couple weeks).

His passport is set to expire in a couple months, and he told me that they recently changed the law so that now male citizens cannot renew their passports while abroad--they must return to Mother Russia to renew. So he says he may have to risk going back.

gaobest Oct 19, 2023 8:05 pm

for Dovster - would it work out for the 15-year-old to live with the daughter or son and their families? Would it be too inappropriate for her to live with a 77-year-old man? And yes 99% that her father gets drafted when returning to Russia even in Siberia.


Originally Posted by Skyman65 (Post 35677289)
I have a Russian coworker here in Taiwan who is facing this same question. He does not want to go back home for fear that he will be drafted (his brother was drafted early in the war, and was KIA within a couple weeks).

His passport is set to expire in a couple months, and he told me that they recently changed the law so that now male citizens cannot renew their passports while abroad--they must return to Mother Russia to renew. So he says he may have to risk going back.

ugh very sad. There is zero way he can avoid a draft if he returns to Russia. Can he get any kind of asylum in Taiwan?

Skyman65 Oct 19, 2023 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 35678630)
ugh very sad. There is zero way he can avoid a draft if he returns to Russia. Can he get any kind of asylum in Taiwan?

He said he was going to try to apply for refugee status, but the odds of success are very low. Taiwan is a great country in many ways, but they don't have a very good track record for taking in refugees (except for that one time in 1949 ;))

He did say that he is rather low on the priority list for conscription due to some health issues, so there's a decent chance he wouldn't get called up. But it's still a risk.

TomMM Oct 20, 2023 7:11 am


Originally Posted by Skyman65 (Post 35678840)
He said he was going to try to apply for refugee status, but the odds of success are very low. Taiwan is a great country in many ways, but they don't have a very good track record for taking in refugees (except for that one time in 1949 ;))

He did say that he is rather low on the priority list for conscription due to some health issues, so there's a decent chance he wouldn't get called up. But it's still a risk.

Once his passport is renewed will he be able to return to Taiwan?

Skyman65 Oct 20, 2023 7:33 am


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 35679494)
Once his passport is renewed will he be able to return to Taiwan?

Unclear. I think as long as he's not drafted, he'll be allowed to leave. But it seems like the rules are in a constant state of flux.

Dovster Oct 20, 2023 8:09 am

Israel has just received visa waiver status from the U.S. Marina, who sometimes lives in CloudCooCoo Land, has decided that she wants the family to move to the U.S. I explained to her that she will be on a tourist visa, won't be able to get work, and certainly can't pay for a place to live.


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