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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.

MOST CURRENT LINKS:



CURRENT PUBLIC OFFER: 50k

"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months"

Link A50

Link B50

Link C50

Link D50

Link E50

Link F50

Link G50

PREVIOUS OFFERS


Previous 75k links (NOT WORKING 11/18)


Link A75, Link B75, Link C75, Link D75, Link E75, Link F75, Link G75, Link H75, Link I75, Link J75, Link K75


Landing Page
Application Page (Both pages include the 18 month language).

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...-executive.jsp

Option 1: Zombie Link with no Landing Page, Several FTers have been using this link with Success. Application Link 50k with 5k spending

Option 2: [note: may be dead or dying as of 3/16/15- check most recent posts in thread] Current Zombie link Application Link 50K for 5K spending, no statement credit.

Option 3: This Link was obtained off of aa.com at one point Bonus is unknown Application Link.

Option 4: Citi Website Offer; Application has the following warning
"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months" There are indeed several reports of people who have already had an EXEC card not receiving any signup bonus miles. And no reports of anyone who has had an EXEC before actually getting any signup bonus at all. Do NOT use this link if you have ever had an EXEC card.
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link
The following are identical to Option 4, but the landing pages were working at the time they were entered into this wiki. All landing pages and application pages have the same content but (slightly) different URLs:
Option 4a: Landing page and Application page
Option 4b: Landing page and Application page
Option 4c: Landing page and Application page

Option 5: Does not have the 18-month language of Option 4, and the application form has the older format (like Option 2 and unlike Option 4).
Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link


Option 6: Artificially generated links; all lead to old-format application pages just like Options 1/2/5, without the "18 months" language found in Option 4 application pages. No landing page ever existed.
There are reports in the thread that applications using 6a/6d were approved but the UPS letter did not mention a bonus, and Citi telephone agents said there would be no bonus. Other reports say that the bonus was stated in the letter.
6a: Application page
6b: Application page
6c: Application page

6d: Application page

Option 7:The following link is very similar to Options 1/2/5 and has been found to work without an 18-month restriction. Since it does not originate from a landing page, there is no web page showing the bonus offer. However, the UPS letter confirms a 50K-mile bonus after $5K spend, and many people have reported that the bonuses have appeared in their AAdvantage accounts. Application Link Link to application page began dying on 6/1/2015. Now completely dead.



EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.

Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.

Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.

Credit inquiry history
Some have reported more approval success with no more than 5 or 6 Experian inquiries within the last 6 months. And Citi credit reviewers have told some applicants that too many inquiries is a problem, even with an excellent credit score. Multiple inquiries from other banks seem to be especially problematic, because Citi can't see their current balances as easily. Other applicants have been approved with more inquiries, especially with a long term Citi tenure and a favorable income to debt ratio.

This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.


Getting around the $450 annual fee: Many people have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded; in practice you have 37 days. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers.

Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days. Leave a $450 balance and it will be zeroed out.

Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:

- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
- [3/15] 15,000 bonus miles for spending $5k
- $450 Credit for spending $5k for next three statements

Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.

When do miles post? Usually two days after your statement closing date. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.


Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.

2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.Recently, Citi has been approving Exec cards but not giving the bonus, e.g. when there has been less than 18 months from the previous application. Therefore, (a) use an application link that does not list the 18-month wait requirement; (b) check the letter you get via UPS to see if it explicitly promises the bonus; if it's in the letter, it will be honored (c) if in doubt, call and ask.

2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279

3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.

Citibank Contacts/Resources
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). As of December 2015, authorized users have AC access (but not partner lounge access) even if they are not with the primary card holder.

For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
Information on new authorized user AC lounge access: Citi Authorized User Admirals Club Benefit Terms

Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.

What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.

Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331

Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668

Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k (as low as 1k on some accounts YYMV)
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k


Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,

If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...-benefits.html
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 12:59 pm
  #4906  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
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Originally Posted by Ed Janowsky
Yeah me too. I'm aiming for the Prestige next since I will have actual airfare charges coming up where the statement credits will offset the AF.
Yep, will have DW apply for a Prestige (I already have one) since our SQ and LH fuel surcharges will end up giving us a $250 statement credit this year, and another $250 credit next year. With the CitiGold AF only being $350, that means a first year profit of $150, plus 50K+ TYPs. If you have airline expenses coming up, and haven't gotten the Prestige yet, I wouldn't waste an app on a questionable hacked EXEC link. I'd definitely do the Prestige first.

More difficult choice for me, since I either already have, or are in an 18 month waiting period, for every major Citi card. All I have left to apply for, using official links, are the AA Gold and the TYPs Preferred. 20K AA miles, or 20K TYPs, without an AF are worth it I guess. Just hard to get excited about such measly bonuses after a couple of years of churning EXECs.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 3:51 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Originally Posted by Brugge
More difficult choice for me, since I either already have, or are in an 18 month waiting period, for every major Citi card. All I have left to apply for, using official links, are the AA Gold and the TYPs Preferred. 20K AA miles, or 20K TYPs, without an AF are worth it I guess. Just hard to get excited about such measly bonuses after a couple of years of churning EXECs.
Yeah but will you run out of Citi generated miles (or all your other vacation miles for that matter) before you can start applying again? I certainly won't.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 4:53 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by Ed Janowsky
Yeah but will you run out of Citi generated miles (or all your other vacation miles for that matter) before you can start applying again? I certainly won't.
I don't understand your question/statement.

DW and I have something like 1.5 Million AA miles, several hundred thousand AS miles, 300K UA miles, 200K TYPs and counting. But we are very desperate for hotel points. Once we get there, we do need a place to stay.

In the meantime, with massive devaluations having occurred in both hotel and airline programs, and certainly more on the way, we wouldn't feel secure with even 5 million miles in our accounts.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
I don't understand your question/statement.

DW and I have something like 1.5 Million AA miles, several hundred thousand AS miles, 300K UA miles, 200K TYPs and counting. But we are very desperate for hotel points. Once we get there, we do need a place to stay.

In the meantime, with massive devaluations having occurred in both hotel and airline programs, and certainly more on the way, we wouldn't feel secure with even 5 million miles in our accounts.
uh huh... That's obvious.

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Old Sep 16, 2015, 7:47 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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A little OT perhaps. Fllying out of ORD tomorrow, but on United--can I still access the (pretty nice) Admirals Club preflight w/EXEC card?

I didn't see anywhere I looked that with a Citi EXEC access required to be flying AA, but I could be wrong.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 7:53 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,632
Originally Posted by dgilligan02
A little OT perhaps. Fllying out of ORD tomorrow, but on United--can I still access the (pretty nice) Admirals Club preflight w/EXEC card?

I didn't see anywhere I looked that with a Citi EXEC access required to be flying AA, but I could be wrong.
It's not OT, but it's clearly answered in the wiki precisely so that it need not be answered over and over.
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 9:31 am
  #4912  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by Brugge
with massive devaluations having occurred in both hotel and airline programs, and certainly more on the way, we wouldn't feel secure with even 5 million miles in our accounts.
Originally Posted by Ed Janowsky
uh huh... That's obvious.
My apologies to anyone who has been busy scooping up AA miles, and hasn't yet tried to actually book any Premium cabin awards with those miles. For them, this is going to come as a rude awakening.

The current sign up bonus for this card is a whopping 75K miles. That's a lot, right?

In 2010, 2011, and 2012, we flew AA FC n/s from LAX to LHR, and back the same way. Total miles for 2 people each time: 250K AA miles. At 75K miles per card, that only took 3 cards plus a little bit of MS to cover.

To fly that route today, since it is never available as a Saver award, (at least during the Summer, which is when we want to go), takes between 560K and 880K AA miles. That's 2 to 3.5 times as many miles. And to get that 560K award r/t, you have to be able and willing to fly over on July 2nd, and return either August 8th or 9th.

Can't go for 5 and a half weeks, not to mention on those exact dates? Then it's going to take at minimum 630K miles for two people r/t. Business class is "good enough" for you? Ah, then it will ONLY take 540K miles. Or to put it in FT terms, you will need to get 7 EXECs with a 75K bonus to fly two people r/t in Bus class.

With our current stock of @1.5 Million AA miles, that's enough to fly that route Anytime 2 times, or at best 2 times RT, and one time one way. At which point we would be almost entirely out of AA miles.

Getting all 3 AA cards every 18 months, we can acquire enough AA miles to go on average once every 3 years. Assuming no further devaluation of AA miles ( which is a very big assumption ) and if we are lucky enough to get the dates of both flights to match up at the lowest 140K Anytime level, we could go FC once every 2 years.

The last two Summers we stayed at the Radisson Blu on the beach in Nice, France for 4 nights. 40K points per night, with the second night free, first 2 nights booked on my account, second 2 nights booked on DW's account. So 4 nights took a total of 80K Club Carlson points. Now post devaluation, and with no more BOGO, the same stay takes 280K points. That's 3.5 times as many points in 2016 as it cost us in 2015.

Assuming we can each get the Club Carlson card again once every 2 years, we would get enough points from the sign up bonuses to stay for 4 nights once every 4 years.

I fully admit, we are very spoiled, having flown FC to Europe 5 times in the past 4 years, plus an Asian trip last winter in SQ Suites Class. We have grown accustomed to traveling frequently, and at a level far beyond our means.

And we fully intend to keep doing that as long as we can manage it.
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 9:43 am
  #4913  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 365
Slightly OT but since we all here open and close cards in 1 or 2 months
Are there any experience with chase’s new draconian 5/24 rules from Exec churners?
I wonder if short accounts count toward the number of the credit cards for CSP or Freedom
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 10:01 am
  #4914  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: Northwest, United
Posts: 3,256
Originally Posted by RobertHanson
My apologies to anyone who has been busy scooping up AA miles, and hasn't yet tried to actually book any Premium cabin awards with those miles. For them, this is going to come as a rude awakening.
Yup - what he said. Me, too - to all of that.
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 10:21 am
  #4915  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 501
I am happy with my AA miles

Originally Posted by nwflyboy
Yup - what he said. Me, too - to all of that.
I have churned this and other AA cards a bit. With 330 days in advance I have been able to get what I need. Last January 2 in first from JFK-HNL, this past June 2 in first/business JFK-LAX-PPT, this past July 5 in business (yes 5) from JFK and BOS to DUB and then back from MAD. Reservations for 2 in business for this coming January JFK-KOA and 2 in business for next June JFK-FCO.

I am a happy camper.
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 10:36 am
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,632
Originally Posted by RobertHanson
In 2010, 2011, and 2012, we flew AA FC n/s from LAX to LHR, and back the same way. Total miles for 2 people each time: 250K AA miles. At 75K miles per card, that only took 3 cards plus a little bit of MS to cover.

To fly that route today, since it is never available as a Saver award, (at least during the Summer, which is when we want to go), takes between 560K and 880K AA miles...
One can make any case one wants by omitting all information that does not support the case.

LHR is a special case, and indeed it is quite obnoxious that AA has stopped releasing LHR MileSAAver awards. However, BA awards are freely available---you can complain about the fuel surcharge, but it's still better than an AAnyTime award on AA, and in any case you can't truthfully claim that the route is 'never available as a Saver award'. The route is also available as a MileSAAver award on IB via other NA gateways and MAD (no F), with only a small fuel surcharge.

Most awards must be booked 330 days in advance. When that is done, there are great deals to much of the world, in particular East Asia, India, Africa and South America. The options have really improved recently because of EYs expansion and QR, AB, UL being added to OW. So the case cannot be made that things have gotten worse overall. And HKG for 135K RT in F continues to be an amazing deal.

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Old Sep 17, 2015, 11:32 am
  #4917  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW,OVB (Russia)
Programs: AA HH Gold SPG Gold BA
Posts: 1,823
Originally Posted by avagyan
Slightly OT but since we all here open and close cards in 1 or 2 months
Are there any experience with chase’s new draconian 5/24 rules from Exec churners?
I wonder if short accounts count toward the number of the credit cards for CSP or Freedom
.Chase is does notice the exec churning and don't like it
Don't even waste an inquiry
Chase is a bunch of greedy snobs. I used the CSP for about 1 year as my primary card/issuer. Will never do it again
I only now use Chase for 5X stuff
Everything else goes to Citi exec or Amex
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 1:30 pm
  #4918  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Posts: 513
Originally Posted by flightmedic
I am a happy camper.
Yeah I agree. Don't kid yourself folks. There are lots of frugal ways to use AAdvantage miles. In fact, there is nowhere I want to go so badly that I'd blow miles on an AAnytime AAward. And besides, Mooseneck is nice this time of year.
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 1:38 pm
  #4919  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 365
Originally Posted by rgAAFT
.Chase is does notice the exec churning and don't like it
Don't even waste an inquiry
Chase is a bunch of greedy snobs. I used the CSP for about 1 year as my primary card/issuer. Will never do it again
I only now use Chase for 5X stuff
Everything else goes to Citi exec or Amex
Thanks, just wanted to convert my ink to cash but keep UR transferability with CSP..
You've got denied and they've mentioned these Exec accounts?
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Old Sep 18, 2015, 8:37 am
  #4920  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 238
Appreciate the help, guys. I was approved yesterday.

I've called a couple of times to try and get a temporary card number before it arrives (I have a couple big expenditures that I need to pay now) - but no one has been able to get me a number.

Anyone know of any loopholes?
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