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Old Oct 6, 2013, 12:04 am
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Citi's contract to issue Hilton co-branded cards ends in December 2017. Citi will sell most accounts to American Express. The criteria for determining which accounts are eligible to be sold are unpublished. Read Hilton FAQ: http://hiltonhonors3.hilton.com/en/e...-card-faq.html


ALL known links for ALL Citi Hilton Honors cards appear to be dead now.
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This thread is a continuation of: Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card (2012 - 2015)


Link no longer working: https://www.citicards.com/cards/cred...7A711D5L00101W

Link no longer working: https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/cr...s-reserve-card

- Earn two weekend night certificates - at select hotels and resorts - after making $2,500 in purchases.

- Enjoy Hilton HHonors Gold Status as long as you are a Citi Hilton Reserve cardmember

- Annual Fee: $95,
not waived


From the app page:
"Weekend Night Certificates offer is not available if you have had any Citi®Hilton HHonorsTM card opened or closed in the past 24 months"."Weekend Night Certificates offer is not available if you have had a Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card account that was opened or closed in the past 24 months." (Language change to "any" dates back to August 2016.)


When will I receive my free nights?
Some datapoints indicate that the certificates are emailed ~7 days after the statement in which the spend is met, but others datapoints indicate that it may take 1-2 additional statement cycles before they're actually sent.

How long do I have to use the free nights?
The certificates expire 12 months from the date that they're emailed to you. Your stay must be completed on or before this expiration date.

Do I need to print the certificates and take them with me?
Yes. Some people say they haven't been asked for them, but it's much better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.

Can the free weekend certs be redeemed online?
No, you have to call the HHonors department to book them. Even regular Hilton reservations cannot book them, although they can transfer you to the right department.


so the 2-browser trick is dead. can we still apply two HH Reserve card every 65 days, with same HH #, and get four certificates?
Several people have reported successfully churning this card, and receiving the certificates for both cards. Closing one card before applying for another doesn't appear to be required.

You can still get as many as you want of the Citi Hilton 50k cards (except that CITI only allows two cards of any type every 60-65 days).all 50k card offers without 18 month language dead as of 7/5/15

Can you get the anniversary free night bonus without paying the annual fee, or do you get the free night bonus only if you hit $10,000 in charges AND renew?
This seems to be YMMV. Some people have reported not getting it until well after their AF payment is due, while others have reported getting it in time to cancel and have their AF refunded. More data points on this are needed.

Terms and conditions for the free nights
Friday, Saturday & Sunday night, and I don't think there are any blackout nights (beyond the normal HHonors program rules). Here is the description from the Cert as well as the T&C's:

Description: You've received this reward certificate because you've met the purchase requirements with your Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve card. This reward is valid for one complimentary weekend night for a standard room at participating hotels worldwide, subject to availability. This reward is not valid at All-Inclusive or Distinctive properties and cannot be combined with the 5th Night Free benefit or other promotions. Please visit HHonors.com/weekendcertificate to see a list of excluded properties.

GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS
As with any HHonors Reward, this Reward Certificate is subject to all HHonors Terms & Conditions on participation, use, and redemption, posted at http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/terms.do. The hotel stay received with this Hotel Reward Certificate shall be treated as a Hotel Reward Stay, as defined in the Terms & Conditions, except Points & Money, Premium Room and Room Upgrade Rewards cannot be used with this Certificate.

HOTEL REWARD TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1. Reward Certificate is not transferable after issued and may be redeemed only by the individual named thereon, consistent with HHonors Terms & Conditions. If a person other than the individual named on the Reward Certificate attempts to redeem it, the Certificate will be deemed void and accommodations will be denied.
2. Reward Certificate may not be sold, auctioned, bartered, brokered or purchased except with the express written consent of Hilton HHonors. Any Reward Certificate obtained in this manner by any person or entity will be considered to be fraudulently obtained and will be deemed void if transferred for cash or other consideration. Altered Reward Certificates are void and will not be honored.
3. Reward Certificate may not be combined with other certificates, discounts, packages or promotional offers, or Hotel Reward stays beyond Standard Room Rewards, unless otherwise specified in writing by Hilton HHonors.
4. Reward Certificate cannot be redeemed for cash, prizes or credit. Reward Certificate is not exchangeable.
5. Reward Certificate will not be replaced, reissued or credited if lost, stolen or otherwise destroyed.
6. Reward Certificate is void if copied, prohibited or restricted by law.
7. HHonors members will not earn points or miles for Hotel Reward stays, unless otherwise stated on the Reward Certificate.
8. Reward Certificate expires on the date noted on the face of the Reward Certificate.
9. Reward Certificate must be redeemed in strict accordance with the procedures specified on the certificate.
10. For the purpose of Certificate redemption, a weekend night is defined as a Friday, Saturday or Sunday night, unless specified otherwise on the Reward Certificate.
11. Reward Certificate applies to the room rate and tax of one standard room at a participating hotel and as further provided on the Certificate. A "Standard room" is as defined by the hotel. Any tax liability incurred in connection with the receipt and/or use of this Certificate, including, but not limited to, local or city occupancy taxes, or individual income tax is the sole responsibility of the user. Incidental charges are the responsibility of the user.
12. Reward Certificate usage is limited to Double Occupancy. Additional occupants, age 19 and above, are subject to the standard extra person charges.
13. Reward Certificate reservations must be guaranteed with a credit card. Some hotels may require a deposit in lieu of a credit card guarantee. Deposits cannot be waived for Reward Certificate reservations. Reward Certificate reservations that are cancelled outside of the time frame set by the hotel's individual cancellation policy will be charged one night's room and tax at the hotel's minimum rate for that date.
14. Reward Certificate is valid for the number of nights noted under the description on the face of the Certificate. If the Certificate is valid for more than one night, all nights must be used and the Certificate redeemed for a single stay that includes up to all Certificate nights. The Certificate cannot be broken down and/or redeemed for more than one stay. Any unused nights will be forfeited and will not be replaced or credited.
15. No credit or substitutions will be given for any Reward Certificate including those that are only partially used.
16. Promotional Rewards are for Standard Rooms only.
17. Hotel stays resulting from Reward Certificate are non-commissionable to travel agents.
18. Recipients of Reward Certificate may be required to sign a release of liability and a statement permitting the use of their name and/or photo for promotional purposes without additional compensation.
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Old Jan 17, 2018, 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by ukyank
Received my Ascend card(s) today. One issue I have is, I had 2 Reserve cards both of which were converted to Amex. One I already met the spend on & plan on canceling as soon as I get my night certificate, the other I plan on using.....There's no discernable way to know which was converted to which card. Hopefully when registering online some of the citi info transfers over (you can't register it online until January 30).
You didn't get materials from Citi? I only had one card, but the materials they sent me indicated the last four digits of the card.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 10:50 am
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Just wondered if anyone could shed any light - have a citi reserve card with card year running to may - I have already spent the $10k necessary for the annual free night but normally only receive that in around june
Am tempted to cancel the card since otherwise will automatically get the Amex Ascend which seems to then preclude me from getting a sign up bonus on the Ascend at any time in the future.
If I cancel now will I still receive the free night I have earned?
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by jonathanev
Just wondered if anyone could shed any light - have a citi reserve card with card year running to may - I have already spent the $10k necessary for the annual free night but normally only receive that in around june
Am tempted to cancel the card since otherwise will automatically get the Amex Ascend which seems to then preclude me from getting a sign up bonus on the Ascend at any time in the future.
If I cancel now will I still receive the free night I have earned?
It's way too late! The Ascend card debutied today (although I'm not sure if you can apply for a few more days). Already the language at the Amex site has changed from the old cards to the new cards:

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...ompare/hilton/


And, anyhow, it was already too late a month ago, since people who cancelled in December are already reporting upthread that they got the Ascend card already.

So you might as well keep it and wait for the free night, because I see no advantage to canceling if you're interesting in the free night you already eaned.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 12:38 pm
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I feel your pain

Originally Posted by acker
I don't know why I can't figure this out...but I'm stumped. My Citi Reserve anniversary was Dec 25th. My goal is 2 free night certificates. If I put 10k spend on the card Jan 3rd and another 5k spend in early Feb I'm good for 2 certificates, correct?
Probably for the same reason I can't figure it out for a 6 January anniversary date.

The optimistic way of looking at this is since the changeover date is 30 January, and Amex is by all accounts crediting existing spending toward a free night at the old $10,000 spend from Citi, that we have a Citi year -- albeit a short one -- in process as of 30 January, just like someone who has a 1 March date and has put $7500 on so far, and wants to add $2500 for the Citi night they were working on.

Now, if and when I put that $10,000 on the card (where "the card" is the old Citi card until 30 January and its Amex Ascend version thereafter), I should get the Citi night. Same for you, although here's hoping you waited until 1 January to do the spend. Because in that case, we would only have to put another $5000 on the Amex card post-30 January, in 2018, in order to get yet another free night, this one courtesy of Amex and the new rules.

Like I said, it's the optimistic reading of things.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
[B]It's way too late!....
No it is not. Citi accounts can be canceled up until 1.30.2018 and will not be transferred to American Express, EVEN IF American Express has already sent a card. These cards are inert, they do not necessarily indicate an account.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 5:54 pm
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No it is not. Citi accounts can be canceled up until 1.30.2018 and will not be transferred to American Express, EVEN IF American Express has already sent a card. These cards are inert, they do not necessarily indicate an account.
Hmmm...do we have any idea whether it's necessary to contact Amex to 'cancel' the nonactivated account? I canceled my account with Citi but still received a new card from Amex...
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by trouble747
Hmmm...do we have any idea whether it's necessary to contact Amex to 'cancel' .......
See the parallel discussion here, starting around post 135:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...l#post29304971
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
No it is not. Citi accounts can be canceled up until 1.30.2018 and will not be transferred to American Express, EVEN IF American Express has already sent a card. These cards are inert, they do not necessarily indicate an account.
Then why are some people getting alerts from credit monitoring services that they've just had a new Amex account opened? (Of course, none of those people reported exactly what showed up on their credit report, just what alert they got from the credit monitoring service.)

Amex must be already sending something to one or more credit reporting agencies for that to happen, no?

So yes, there are claims that you can cancel until Jan 30, but if your concern is the effect of this on your Chase 5/24 status, it's not clear whether those claims should be believed. (An account that shows up opened and then cancelled by the bank because of an error will still count against Chase 5/24 if the "opened on" date is in the past 24 months. Chase doesn't look at the whether the account was closed or why, they just look at whether it was opened and when.)
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Old Jan 19, 2018, 11:38 am
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So yes, there are claims that you can cancel until Jan 30, but if your concern is the effect of this on your Chase 5/24 status, it's not clear whether those claims should be believed. (An account that shows up opened and then cancelled by the bank because of an error will still count against Chase 5/24 if the "opened on" date is in the past 24 months. Chase doesn't look at the whether the account was closed or why, they just look at whether it was opened and when.)
Though presumably one could tell Recon that the account was never actually opened, and (hopefully) get them to disregard it, just as one can (usually) do with AU cards.
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Old Jan 21, 2018, 9:44 am
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Though presumably one could tell Recon that the account was never actually opened, and (hopefully) get them to disregard it, just as one can (usually) do with AU cards.
Chase has a procedure in place for AU cards. I don't know that have (or will have) a procedure in place for "never really opened" accounts, at the very least that may require "elevating" the recon and all sorts of time-consuming investigation (ie, not as quick as counting AUs).
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Chase has a procedure in place for AU cards. I don't know that have (or will have) a procedure in place for "never really opened" accounts, at the very least that may require "elevating" the recon and all sorts of time-consuming investigation (ie, not as quick as counting AUs).
Of course, and sometimes even when getting them to not count AU cards it may prove necessary to escalate to the Supervisor level. But that's no reason to just assume "not really opened" cards can't be handled, and give up without trying to get it fixed. We won't know until several people try it and report back....
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Old Jan 25, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by acker
I don't know why I can't figure this out...but I'm stumped. My Citi Reserve anniversary was Dec 25th. My goal is 2 free night certificates. If I put 10k spend on the card Jan 3rd and another 5k spend in early Feb I'm good for 2 certificates, correct?
Based upon my discussions with customer service at Citicard (totally clueless and horrible customer service), American Express (helpful and customer-oriented) and Hilton Honors (has the answers), you will receive one certificate for the $10,000 spend in January 2018 on the Citi credit card, and another certificate for the additional $5,000 spend in February 2018 on the converted Amex card.

Both Certificates will be emailed to you from Hilton Honors. Make sure you pay the annual fee assessed on the Citi credit card, and don't cancel anything.

If you have questions, don't bother calling Citi. They make stuff up when they don't know the answer, and that includes the "supervisors". Sad.

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Old Jan 27, 2018, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by jcatman
Based upon my discussions with customer service at Citicard (totally clueless and horrible customer service), American Express (helpful and customer-oriented) and Hilton Honors (has the answers), you will receive one certificate for the $10,000 spend in January 2018 on the Citi credit card, and another certificate for the additional $5,000 spend in February 2018 on the converted Amex card.

Both Certificates will be emailed to you from Hilton Honors. Make sure you pay the annual fee assessed on the Citi credit card, and don't cancel anything.

If you have questions, don't bother calling Citi. They make stuff up when they don't know the answer, and that includes the "supervisors". Sad.
Interesting. I know that OP mentioned doing $10K spend Jan 2018 and another $5K in Feb 2018. If I am understanding this correctly -- big if -- the two certs would not be mailed out until Jan or Feb 2019, and would require that OP had paid the $95 billed on Dec 2017 due date and then another $95 on or soon after a Dec 2018 due date to Amex. All of which is to say, I am understanding that OP would not have to do the full $10K until Nov/Dec 2018 (i.e., before first post-changeover anniversary date) and then the other (additional) $5k by end of year Dec 2018. No advantage (in terms of accelerated certificates) to OP's original plan (other than getting the spend out of the way).
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 8:13 pm
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I don't think your understanding is correct. In the other thread for the AMEX Hilton cards, the Hilton Lurker has said that certs for spend on the AMEX cards, including the converted Citi cards, will be provided within 6 to 8 weeks of when the spend (either or both of the $10,000 and $15,000 spends) is completed. So the answer to the original question would be yes, you would get two certificates for spending $15,000 over January and February and you should have both certificates by the end of March if the spend is completed by early February.
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Old Jan 28, 2018, 6:00 am
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Point taken. I've seen this; and I've also seen that this was supposed to have been happening already, and/or that certs would come right away, or immediately, or some such. And maybe they will after the transition. But I'm eight weeks past date on last Citi spend, and can't cancel because no cert has yet arrived. Also, it's the HIlton Lurker promising for Amex, and what they are promising would cost Amex one AF and customers if (in this example) OP could cancel before Dec 2018 anniversary date. Hope you are right.
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