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Originally Posted by moondog
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There's a semi-new rule (usually loosely enforced) in the US that says we're supposed to apply via the consulate that is responsible for our states of residence.
Regarding the person upthread who wants to apply in Indonesia, but doesn't have residence, I'd say it's worth a shot if he really wants to go to China. IME that's a rule that can be bent with a combination of compelling circumstances and a friendly counter person (though I've witnessed more strikeouts than successes on this front). |
In the USA, the new geographic rule about applying to the Consulate serving your residence location is actually fairly strictly enforced, though I'm sure there's a few people who can either put out a compelling case or sweet-talk their way into an exception.
For the US non-resident tourist applicant in Indonesia, it might be worth trying the Chinese Consulate in Surabaya rather than Embassy in Jakarta. Just don't get your hopes too high. As for regional alternatives if you strike out in Indonesia, Hong Kong remains a viable option. Hanoi is also viable these days. HCMC only through an agent. Bangkok possible but a hassle, Chiang Mai possible and less hassle. Phnom Penh and Vientiane difficult. KL and Singapore have heard mixed results but mostly difficult. Do report back with what you ended up doing. |
Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
(Post 23246392)
The visa company my organization uses told me today that the Consulate has been very "stingy" (their word) with universities, NGOs & non-profits recently, rarely giving more than a 6m double entry.
I used Moondog's recommendations to rewrite my business letter and "suggest" some edits for my invitation letter (they forgot the seal so I needed a new copy anyway). So we'll see..... |
Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
(Post 23396248)
I forgot to update that the university just resent me the same original invitation letter, not the revision I crafted so delicately, so I pretty much knew I wouldn't get a 2yr visa:p However, got my visa/passports back today and I have a 1 yr multiple entry and my husband got a 1 yr multiple entry tourist visa, so that'll do^ Better than the visa company had warned me could happen....
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Visa Application: Relationship with Applicant: Girlfriend?
Hello everybody. This is my first time posting so go gentle on the new guy :)
I have been to China twice and met a wonderful girl who I will marry on my next trip to China. I'm filling out the visa application now. On the previous two occasions I put tourism as my reason for visit, but this time I have put that I will stay with a Chinese citizen, and I have a letter of invitation ready. My question is, for the "relationship with applicant" question 2.8, will it raise any flags if I put "girlfriend" there. Additionally, I was thinking of putting for question 3.7 (if you have more information about your visa application enter it here) that I will be getting married to her during this stay and that my visit will include a visit to the US Consulate there. Quite frankly I just wanted to make sure this wouldn't raise flags. The first time, I applied for a tourist visa to one city for 5 days. The second time, it was a tourist visa for the same city for 2 weeks. The officer at the Chinese embassy looked at me and said "you want to tour the same city for 2 weeks now?" He was skeptical but accepted it. Now, I feel being accepted a third time in the same city for tourism would be unlikely, so I figured I would be honest here. I could, alternatively, say I am a friend just visiting. Would that be better? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm going to the Chinese Embassy to get the visa this Friday 8/29. Thanks!! |
Originally Posted by waverider80
(Post 23430634)
Hello everybody. This is my first time posting so go gentle on the new guy :)
I have been to China twice and met a wonderful girl who I will marry on my next trip to China. I'm filling out the visa application now. On the previous two occasions I put tourism as my reason for visit, but this time I have put that I will stay with a Chinese citizen, and I have a letter of invitation ready. My question is, for the "relationship with applicant" question 2.8, will it raise any flags if I put "girlfriend" there. Additionally, I was thinking of putting for question 3.7 (if you have more information about your visa application enter it here) that I will be getting married to her during this stay and that my visit will include a visit to the US Consulate there. Quite frankly I just wanted to make sure this wouldn't raise flags. The first time, I applied for a tourist visa to one city for 5 days. The second time, it was a tourist visa for the same city for 2 weeks. The officer at the Chinese embassy looked at me and said "you want to tour the same city for 2 weeks now?" He was skeptical but accepted it. Now, I feel being accepted a third time in the same city for tourism would be unlikely, so I figured I would be honest here. I could, alternatively, say I am a friend just visiting. Would that be better? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm going to the Chinese Embassy to get the visa this Friday 8/29. Thanks!! |
Just go for a tourist visa. nothing wrong with getting a letter of invitation from a friend. Your actual relationship and plans do not matter. I usually get an invitation letter from my girlfriend's mother.
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I should add that once you are married you can apply for a visa as a family member and get longer stays.
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Originally Posted by JPDM
(Post 23431640)
I should add that once you are married you can apply for a visa as a family member and get longer stays.
I just wonder if they will accept a tourist visa to the same city a third time in a row. For clarification, yes, I am an American citizen and will be applying at the Chinese Embassy in Washington, DC. |
The invitation letter means that you do not need to show an itinerary with hotel bookings.
You can go to the same place as often as you like. not sure why you are so nervous about all this. |
Originally Posted by JPDM
(Post 23438132)
The invitation letter means that you do not need to show an itinerary with hotel bookings.
You can go to the same place as often as you like. not sure why you are so nervous about all this. We have probably 20 visas all for Shanghai but it's always been tourism/visit relatives. While we've never applied in person neither have we had any problems. |
Visiting friends (the ones giving you the letter of invitation) falls under tourism. So nothing abnormal about keep visiting friends.
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Originally Posted by JPDM
(Post 23441665)
Visiting friends (the ones giving you the letter of invitation) falls under tourism. So nothing abnormal about keep visiting friends.
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Originally Posted by waverider80
(Post 23442725)
Thank you everybody... the second time I went to the embassy, months ago, the official gave me a skeptical look and said my visa might not be approved because I'm going to the same city for a longer stay. Now I'm doing the same thing again. Well, I'm off to the embassy - I'll let everyone know how it goes!
It's probably too late, but when advised you to keep it simple, I was thinking that you write in your trip that's supported by the invitation letter for a short duration, AND also add a few other phantom trips to ensure that you get 1 year/ multiple entry. Additionally, those girls at the counters are not "officials"; they simply review your paperwork with you and pass it onto the actual "officials", but if they tell you that you're good to go, you probably are. |
Originally Posted by waverider80
(Post 23442725)
Thank you everybody... the second time I went to the embassy, months ago, the official gave me a skeptical look and said my visa might not be approved because I'm going to the same city for a longer stay. Now I'm doing the same thing again. Well, I'm off to the embassy - I'll let everyone know how it goes!
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