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I've stayed at that Holiday Inn Express. It's tucked in a quiet residential street, one block from Suzhou Creek, which has an excellent pathway for walking, running, and cycling. The neighborhood does have a "burb" feel, but it's really just a nondescript part of a maniacal city.
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Originally Posted by 889
(Post 31308286)
"Brits get 2-year multiple entry visas."
But only if they apply in Britain, it seems. (Not a problem for the OP, apparently.) Fees included they are really expensive. OP might consider two 144-hour TWOVs with a cheap flight to HK etc in the middle. |
Originally Posted by Internaut
(Post 31310277)
I did consider that... However, I understand the TWOV limits me, in effect, to the Greater Shanghai Area. Once the National holiday is over, I’ll be looking to go further. Applying for a visa today and it is i) not trivial and ii) expensive (so better had be a two year multi). |
To be specific, you can travel and stay anywhere in Shanghai Municipality, Zhejiang Province and Jiangsu Province. That's a very large area, but you can't go up to Beijing, for example. Don't even consider it.
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While clearly illegal, apart from Tibet, China does not, at present, have facilities to restrict the movements of foreigners in country.
As I mentioned above, I do not advocate violating TWOV rules. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31310495)
While clearly illegal, apart from Tibet, China does not, at present, have facilities to restrict the movements of foreigners in country.
As I mentioned above, I do not advocate violating TWOV rules. |
Originally Posted by Deltus
(Post 31310611)
Hotels get quite edgy when you turn up on a UK passport with no visa, even when they can see your entry stamp (I know from experience). I'd imagine if you tried to check in to a hotel in Beijing with a TWOV from Shanghai, they might kick off...
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31310328)
... I'm guessing you have Beijing in mind. Honestly, it would be pretty easy to go there and back undetected, as long as you don't register, but I am not advocating this.
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Originally Posted by sinoflyer
(Post 31310771)
A foreigner would need to submit their passport to purchase a HSR ticket, and this information might pop up onto the computer screen at exit immigration. I do NOT recommend going to Beijing with TWOV.
Somewhat off topic, before the Tibet entry policy was strictly enforced, it was quite common for foreigners of Asian ethnicity to travel there sans permit, and I'm guessing determined folks still find ways to slip through the cracks. |
Either way, I don’t knowingly break the law in any country I visit (and if that rule of thumb applies to the US, it definitely applies to China). Besides, I’m guessing hotel and guest house owners would rather not find themselves in an awkward place with the local law and customs. |
Originally Posted by Internaut
(Post 31310935)
Either way, I don’t knowingly break the law in any country I visit (and if that rule of thumb applies to the US, it definitely applies to China). Besides, I’m guessing hotel and guest house owners would rather not find themselves in an awkward place with the local law and customs. FYI, my last several landlords are all party members; 20-something police officers know not to mess with them over bureaucratic matters. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31310796)
Entering pp details into a computer is not currently required for buying plane tickets (visual ID checks only), buses don't care, and obviously it's a non issue if you drive yourself or with others in a private vehicle.
Somewhat off topic, before the Tibet entry policy was strictly enforced, it was quite common for foreigners of Asian ethnicity to travel there sans permit, and I'm guessing determined folks still find ways to slip through the cracks. |
Yes, the government has for several years been trying out a real-name system for long-distance buses in various parts of the country.
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Yep, my passport was required for several bus trips in Yunnan earlier this year.
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Shame to hear about more and more buses requiring passports. Had become accustomed to taking buses from less popular bus stations - e.g. in Shenzhen’s Donghu neighborhood, as opposed to the Luo Hu border one - without a hitch. |
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