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moondog Jul 16, 2021 12:32 am


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 33411683)
I really wish people in China would turn off their alert ringtones. Riding on the train is such a miserable experience hearing your BS tones all day.

I don’t think I’ve let my phone ring since high school. Vibrate only.

All of my wx alerts are set to silent (i.e. Even vibrate is annoying). I check messages at least once an hour when I'm awake. I do keep my ringer on vibrate though because if someone actually bothers to call me, it might be time sensitive.

travelinmanS Jul 16, 2021 3:35 am


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 33411683)
I really wish people in China would turn off their alert ringtones. Riding on the train is such a miserable experience hearing your BS tones all day.

I don’t think I’ve let my phone ring since high school. Vibrate only.

Let's work on the watching movies without headphones problem first, then move on to ringtones. Incremental improvements.

But this is an argument for flying over the train.

percysmith Jul 16, 2021 3:59 am


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 33411984)
Let's work on the watching movies without headphones problem first.

Might not be on topic but you got me started.

Back when phone makers included 3.5mm headphone jacks, it was a reasonable expectation for people to carry them along. I even nicked a dozen pairs of JAL dom Y headphones during my JGC修行 to hand out on HK buses.

Nowadays with the "brave" (greedy) abolition of headphone jacks by phone makers, all I can do is put carry around my noise cancelling set and put them on.

tauphi Jul 16, 2021 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 33411984)
Let's work on the watching movies without headphones problem first, then move on to ringtones. Incremental improvements.

But this is an argument for flying over the train.

Wait, I thought you can get WiFi on the plane these days, no?

lsquare Jul 16, 2021 9:20 pm


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 33411683)
I really wish people in China would turn off their alert ringtones. Riding on the train is such a miserable experience hearing your BS tones all day.

I don’t think I’ve let my phone ring since high school. Vibrate only.

You forgot to mention crowding. Try taking the Guangzhou subway during rush hour...

moondog Jul 16, 2021 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 33413919)
You forgot to mention crowding. Try taking the Guangzhou subway during rush hour...

​​​​​​there is another thread here on ground transportation.

Cryofern Jul 19, 2021 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 33413867)
Wait, I thought you can get WiFi on the plane these days, no?

yeah but Wi-Fi-equipped flights generally have a rule somewhere specifically stating something about noise - no voice calls, at the very least
(whether such a rule is followed is a different consideration that I am not commenting on here)

moondog Jul 19, 2021 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by Cryofern (Post 33421292)
yeah but Wi-Fi-equipped flights generally have a rule somewhere specifically stating something about noise - no voice calls, at the very least
(whether such a rule is followed is a different consideration that I am not commenting on here)

I've never seen that rule in print or heard it from cabin crews, but I haven't witnessed many WeChat calls from airplanes...maybe in part because the bandwidth is often limited. I listen in on conference calls (with earphones) sometimes; the quality is usually (just) okay. I imagine an actual voice conversation would be frustrating.

percysmith Jul 19, 2021 8:02 pm

Depends what ports Wechat uses. JAL blocks those used by Skype call https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servi.../qa/index.html

tauphi Jul 19, 2021 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 33421415)
Depends what ports Wechat uses. JAL blocks those used by Skype call https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servi.../qa/index.html

Not an issue for those of us in China because we all have VPNs :)

YariGuy Jul 20, 2021 3:11 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33421386)
I've never seen that rule in print or heard it from cabin crews, but I haven't witnessed many WeChat calls from airplanes...maybe in part because the bandwidth is often limited. I listen in on conference calls (with earphones) sometimes; the quality is usually (just) okay. I imagine an actual voice conversation would be frustrating.

A few years ago I was talking on wechat over wifi on a transpacific Delta flight. Was told by crew that's a no-no.

lsquare Jul 20, 2021 3:15 am


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 33422011)
A few years ago I was talking on wechat over wifi on a transpacific Delta flight. Was told by crew that's a no-no.

Next time, maybe try to cover your mouth as you're on the phone and talk when there's no flight attendant nearby.

percysmith Jul 20, 2021 3:35 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 33422017)
Next time, maybe try to cover your mouth as you're on the phone and talk when there's no flight attendant nearby.

I was complained about by a local passenger for trying to call CX call centre in the aisle even after doors open on a JAL domestic flight (they didn't know I was doing a Hail Mary on my next connection).

I wouldn't dream of calling in-flight. However, they block Youtube on the same ports as well (half the time, inconsistent settings between equipment).

travelinmanS Jul 20, 2021 4:15 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 33422017)
Next time, maybe try to cover your mouth as you're on the phone and talk when there's no flight attendant nearby.

Or you could just not make calls on the plane and avoid bothering everyone around you.

lsquare Jul 20, 2021 4:15 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 33422042)
I was complained about by a local passenger for trying to call CX call centre in the aisle even after doors open on a JAL domestic flight (they didn't know I was doing a Hail Mary on my next connection).

I wouldn't dream of calling in-flight. However, they block Youtube on the same ports as well (half the time, inconsistent settings between equipment).

You remind me of a tpac flight I took out of Beijing about 10 years ago. I had a GPS unit on me and the guy sitting next to me asked me what it was. The plane was just leaving the terminal and getting in line for take-off. I explained to him what it was, but either the guy didn't believe me or thought something was wrong because he called the flight attendant and complain. She kindly asked me to put it away. Since I was still in China, I decided it wasn't worth putting up a fight.


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