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law dawg Feb 26, 2007 6:46 pm

I fail to see the relevance here, to be honest. Does it happen? Sure, but no more than I hear flight crews complain.

Travellin' Fool Feb 26, 2007 6:49 pm

i only care when they aren't doing their job

VideoPaul Feb 26, 2007 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by omascreener (Post 7300774)
Why do you have to point out their size and ethnicity it didn't add anything to your point.


The same reason any good story includes descriptions of what people look like, sound like, etc. You wouldn't read a novel very far that said "the man walked up to the other man and, pointing at the man, said..."

Believe it or not, sometimes pointing out someone's race and/or size is just a way of helping you experience what the writer did. There's no evil agenda.

--PP

Texas_Dawg Feb 26, 2007 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by omascreener (Post 7300774)
Why do you have to point out their size and ethnicity

I didn't. I wanted to.


Originally Posted by omascreener (Post 7300774)
it didn't add anything to your point

I didn't intend for it to add anything to the point.

I intended for it to add to the narrative, which it did.

Texas_Dawg Feb 26, 2007 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by VideoPaul (Post 7302668)
The same reason any good story includes descriptions of what people look like, sound like, etc. You wouldn't read a novel very far that said "the man walked up to the other man and, pointing at the man, said..."

Believe it or not, sometimes pointing out someone's race and/or size is just a way of helping you experience what the writer did. There's no evil agenda.

--PP

Posted my response directly above this one before seeing your response.

Thank you. You beat me to it. Nicely done.

peachfront Feb 26, 2007 8:52 pm

There's plenty of evil agenda when someone is posting about "obese black chicks." In case you are naive enough to think "obese" and "black" are just descriptive, you have the word "chick" thrown in for good measure. At this point, you understand that while the poster knows he would get booted for using a hateful slang word about the woman's color, he figures he can get away with using a hateful slang word about her gender.

If that isn't evil, it is at least despicable.


Originally Posted by VideoPaul (Post 7302668)
. There's no evil agenda.

--PP


Fredd Feb 26, 2007 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront (Post 7303037)
There's plenty of evil agenda when someone is posting about "obese black chicks." In case you are naive enough to think "obese" and "black" are just descriptive, you have the word "chick" thrown in for good measure. At this point, you understand that while the poster knows he would get booted for using a hateful slang word about the woman's color, he figures he can get away with using a hateful slang word about her gender.

If that isn't evil, it is at least despicable.

Evil? Hateful? Despicable?

http://www.swinginchicks.com/ ;)

rmiller774 Feb 26, 2007 9:23 pm

My wife (who had a recent knee replacement) and I came through Tampa on February 6th and as we came to a halt at the end of a very long line a supervisory TSA person, who must have noticed my wife's slight limp, unhooked a maze rope and told us to follow her. She led us right up to the screening machine, made space for us in front of the line, and wished us well. I now am having trouble doing any TSA bashing.

aisleorwindow Feb 26, 2007 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by jwillett13 (Post 7300834)
I though most TSA conversations went like this.

I like Nachos....nachos rule....

Shut up Beavis

Hehehehehehe.....yeah....we should like totally enforce that "baggie" rule....that would be cool.....hehehehehehehe.

;)

Moriah Feb 26, 2007 11:50 pm

Professionalism is the issue
 
I personally don't care about a screeners gender (unless they're having to feel me up -- it's going to take some time to get over the gropings when business sent me flying during that lunacy on short notice ticketing), size (I'm not exactly svelte), or ethnicity.

Unfortunately, mentioning those attributes of the screener took away from that person's valid complaints about the behavior.

CNN has the backscatter technology all hyped as just being an outline -- but if a screener can't be professional about sexual items in carryons I certainly don't want to have to declare KY, or let them see me in a virtual stripsearch.

As for sleeping on the job, I know I could get away with it too at my workplace, and I've been tempted, but I've never done it. What can I say, if I can't do it (even if it's just because I feel like it's wrong), neither should they. Besides, it's my tax dollars and security fees going to pay their salary, and I don't think "Thousands Sleeping Around" is any better of a rep to have than "Thousands Standing Around".

I'm glad to see that there are TSA employees and supervisors here, since I know it must bite to have frustration about the bad behavior of others taken out on you. Thanks for incorporating our concerns into your practice.

12172003 Feb 27, 2007 12:34 am


Originally Posted by Texas_Dawg (Post 7300435)
A couple of my favorite TSA moments:

1) Two obese black chicks in ATL laughing at the x-ray monitor showing a dildo in one passenger's luggage.

My friend was going through security. They ran his bag back and forth, back and forth. My friend said out loud, "Oh, that's my toothbrush." My friend is a guy. :D :D :D

12172003 Feb 27, 2007 12:40 am


Originally Posted by flyinbob (Post 7301377)
How about the female part, or does that not offend your PC sensitivity? :rolleyes:

Should everyone be offended that the poster pointed out the TSA and government employees. Heck, even pointing out they were passengers going through security might have offended my dog. :rolleyes: How about we all are less sensitive? The poster painted an image. I think that some of you inferred something negative. ....And I live in the Republik of Kalifornia.

pacer142 Feb 27, 2007 1:06 am


Originally Posted by fishintheobx (Post 7300342)
Yup...you all hit it. Went through CVG last week and saw one screaming at a passenger over a little tube of anti-bac...like it was the highlight of his shining career at the TSA. Meanwhile, the chick watching the screen of the X-ray was more consumed talking about her boyfriend to the other workers...I could have passed a chainsaw through and she probably wouldn't have picked it up.

It's this "screaming" I don't get. While the rules in the UK are just as nonsensical, and the procedure just as much of a hassle, screening staff have never been anything other than polite to me. This being the case, the whole experience is made a lot more tolerable.

Mats Feb 27, 2007 2:18 am

I don't think that TSA staff should be using foul language within earshot of passengers. The TSA has a bad enough image; throwing f-bombs around while watching the x-ray screen doesn't help. I've noticed this a few times in Atlanta and Houston.

I can have a filthy mouth sometimes, but I would never speak that way around patients.

The most recent conversation I overheard was at my favorite hometown checkpoint at CMH. A woman watching the x-ray (I won't mention her size) actually squealed, "That looks like a PLATIC BAG ITEM!" Oh the thrill of throwing away someone's 101 mL hand lotion! Will the thrills ever end?

Bart Feb 27, 2007 4:59 am


Originally Posted by flyinbob (Post 7301377)
How about the female part, or does that not offend your PC sensitivity? :rolleyes:

Well, there does seem to be a pattern in that particular poster's comments. omascreener picked up on it, and I happen to agree. But the comments didn't really cross any lines. Then again, it's always a matter of subtlety.


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