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Originally Posted by crimyla
Instead of not allowing 5 year olds to carry their juice boxes aboard a plane, why don't they screen the baggage handlers and the people who supply the on board food carts?
Comrades Chertoff and Hawley only have 1 play in the play book and there's nothing even remotely intelligent about it. |
Originally Posted by Chuckles
At BUR last Friday (Aug 18), WN was doing random checks of carry-on bags at the gate......
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The only way to stop this lunacy is to take action. If we are sheep, then the oppressive state will take advantage of that. Business travellers should unite! Write to your congressman. THe frequent business travellers are among the highest paid people in the United States. Use that clout. Don't make the screening easy for TSA. Question it. If you have time, do the secondary screening. (I always did this when I had time and the "recommended" that you take off your shoes.)
Taking off shoes, becoming dehydrated, and having bad breath are all ways that you empower a totolitarian regime. |
Originally Posted by kaukau
bocastephen's gonna tell 'em what to do:
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how does that help?
Originally Posted by NZguy
The only way to stop this lunacy is to take action. If we are sheep, then the oppressive state will take advantage of that. Business travellers should unite! Write to your congressman. THe frequent business travellers are among the highest paid people in the United States. Use that clout. Don't make the screening easy for TSA. Question it. If you have time, do the secondary screening. (I always did this when I had time and the "recommended" that you take off your shoes.)
Taking off shoes, becoming dehydrated, and having bad breath are all ways that you empower a totolitarian regime. How does secondary screening help our cause? If it does, I'm for it! |
Originally Posted by crimyla
How does secondary screening help our cause? If it does, I'm for it!
Now, thanks to Comrades Pawley and Cherkoff's ridiculous "all footwear must be x-rayed because we're disgusting little shoe perverts" mandate, the point is moot. :( |
Originally Posted by crimyla
Instead of not allowing 5 year olds to carry their juice boxes aboard a plane, why don't they screen the baggage handlers and the people who supply the on board food carts?
The politicians who make the "security" rules pick the techniques that are most likely to win them re-election -- they do not care about the effectiveness. Stuff that goes on in the "background," like screening ramp workers, cargo, or catering, are invisible to the public and thus are a "waste" of tax dollars (and thus don't happen to the degree they should). Only security procedures that are visible to the public are considered worthwhile, because the ultimate goal is to put on a "show" that makes the passengers think "hey, my government is doing something to protect me!" Given limited resources, politicians will always allocate them in the way that optimizes their re-election chances. Frequent travelers are now suffering as a result of this fact. |
Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
WN staff or TSA? I have never seen any airline employees ever search a passenger's belongings. They have a right to make you check oversize bags, but what gives them the rights to do a search? AA barks at PAX during the initial boarding call, but certainly they do not search.
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
WN staff or TSA?
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
AA40 LAX-JFK was delayed for an hour last Friday morning because too many pax had brought aboard their own beverages. According to the LA Daily News (the Valley paper), the Captain ordered the plane emptied and searched, and all the pax re-screened by the TSA.
This lunacy has to stop. I can't wait until the adults are once again in charge instead of delusional, paranoid morons. |
Will this water strategy work?
I just thought of this. Would it be possible to carry bottled water onboard a plane if one got a note from his/her doctor saying that one has a medical condition requiring hydration and as such having one's personal supply of bottled water is a medical necessity?
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Originally Posted by Herb687
I just thought of this. Would it be possible to carry bottled water onboard a plane if one got a note from his/her doctor saying that one has a medical condition requiring hydration and as such having one's personal supply of bottled water is a medical necessity?
I have an idea -- let's simulate the flying experience with the TSA screeners. Work your eight hour shift (or more if overtime, similar to an extended on-board delay) with no outside beverages. Every few hours a "flight attendant" will pass by and give you a very small cup of water (150 ml or thereabouts). There will be a call button nearby that you can press if you wish, although it's unlikely anything will happen. |
Originally Posted by JS
I doubt it. It has to be an actual prescription, which I suppose is possible but way too much trouble IMHO. Besides, you would be limited to 8 oz of water. I bring a liter bottle of water on the plane -- 8 oz is not nearly enough and I don't speak Imperial very well. ;)
I do have an actual history of getting sick (dizzy, exhaustion) from a combination of altitude and dehydration at altitudes way to low to bug most people (4000 ft., which is lower than cabin altitude on a plane), and when that happened, drinking lots of water solved the problem within hours. Since then I always drink very large amounts of water when working/recreating/travelling at altitude and have had no more problems. So I would have something of a legitimate reason to make the request. |
Originally Posted by studentff
I do have an actual history of getting sick (dizzy, exhaustion) from a combination of altitude and dehydration at altitudes way to low to bug most people (4000 ft., which is lower than cabin altitude on a plane), and when that happened, drinking lots of water solved the problem within hours. Since then I always drink very large amounts of water when working/recreating/travelling at altitude and have had no more problems. So I would have something of a legitimate reason to make the request.
I am quite tempted to give this water prescription strategy a try in the future. I won't be able to make it to the doctor in time for my next trip (a very short-haul, thankfully) but perhaps before the trip after that (I have no confidence that the moronic, liberty-crushing post-8/10 restrictions are going away any time soon...). If my physician doesn't accomodate my request to write an official prescription for water, it's time to fire him and find a new one who will. |
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