Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775

Several of us patriots have suggested trying to resist the TSA process to force changes. If all Americans refused to act like sheep, and instead asserted their rights "to be secure in their persons ... against unreasonable searches and seizures" (Fourth Amendment), maybe we could bring some resolution to this out of control process. Without some objective indicia of involvement in criminal activity, i.e. alarming the WTMD, some finding on X-ray, odd bulges, etc., no American should be subject to a frisk/pat-down. "Random" secondaries, involving pat-downs, bag searches, etc., are repugnant to our Fourth Amendment rights. Congress should hear about violations.

Originally Posted by deltajfk

Amendment 4: This amendment protects Americans from unreasonable searches and seizures. Search and seizure are permitted only if a judge has issued a warrant. A warrant is issued only if there is probable cause. This means an officer must show that it is probable, or likely, that the search will produce evidence of a crime.

See it is not random so I am being lied to. I can't wait to get another SSSS and I'm going to refuse to go through with it, only regular screeening.

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

When you go through the WTMD you give consent to search of yourself and when you place your items on the x-ray, you give consent for them to search your bags to what ever degree they deem necessary. Your consent waves the 4th amendment because you gave them your permissions for searches and seizure. They do not need probable cause. Their random screening is random. You have every right to refuse to go through with secondary screening just don’t expect to get on your flight. If you don’t want to get on a secure form of transportation get on a bus and then shut up.

Originally Posted by Spiff

Too goddamn bad.

If you don't like reading these perfectly valid complaints, then please feel free to find another IBB to post on. ;)

The horse manure currently being passed off as "security" at airports in the United States is anything but secure or sensible and those responsible for this idiocy ought to be put on a one-way flight to North Korea with absolutely no provisions made for their safety or comfort. They are pure filth.

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

if you don't wish to deal with that find another way to travel.

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

So your opinion is to just shut down the TSA and let who ever and what ever get on to any plane they want and do what ever they want, you sure know how to come up with "valid whining", but you sure don't have anything to say as to make conditions better other then do away with any attempt of security measures because that just happens to not go the way you think thing should. That's an open-minded and mature though line.

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

So your opinion is to just shut down the TSA and let who ever and what ever get on to any plane they want and do what ever they want, you sure know how to come up with "valid whining", but you sure don't have anything to say as to make conditions better other then do away with any attempt of security measures because that just happens to not go the way you think thing should. That's an open-minded and mature though line.

Originally Posted by TSASuper

JohnSmithy, welcome to FlyerTalk. Don't worry...the sting goes away in time.

Originally Posted by TSASuper

JohnSmithy, welcome to FlyerTalk. Don't worry...the sting goes away in time.

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

Thank you, I'm just a strong supporter of the TSA. :D

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

Thank you, I'm just a strong supporter of the TSA. :D

Originally Posted by johnsmithy

Thank you, I'm just a strong supporter of the TSA. :D