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WOW! Am I ever impressed. This has to be the largest conglomeration of frequent whiners, that I have seen, gathered in one place.

I have been a screener at the Port Columbus Airport since June of last year, and after reading through your forums, the number of complaints that I have heard increased by at least threefold.

There seems to be a lot of assumption that the current class of screeners has come from a 'welfare to work' program, and that we do not possess the Ivy League education that is a staple in the portfolio of you 'frequent whiners.

Please, do not assume that you know me.

I must apologize for infringing upon some of your basic human rights.
I understand that removing your shoes may cause undue hardship to yourself, and the trauma suffered by all who may be witness to a such tragedy must be unspeakable!
Please forgive me when I ask that you remove your laptop computer from the carrying case. I am only doing as I was instructed.
I understand that some security measures seem trivial. But these measures are not put in place randomly, Some thing or incident has resulted in every step or procedure that you may encounter while negotiating airport security.

We (TSA Screeners) are not all uneducated, Taco Bell layoffs. Some of us have migrated here due to economical needs (you probably are not familiar with that).

Speaking from my perspective, I would have to say that the majority of the folks that I work with are professional, courteous, and will make every attempt to turn an otherwise unpleasant experience into something a little more palatable for passengers.

I know that we have our undesirables, just as your place of business does, and the entire organization seems to be evaluated based on those few individuals.

Please understand that the general consensus of the travelling public, toward the new security measures is positive, but that we like to here from everyone.

cmh, thanks for joining in. You will find that much of the whining is exacerbated by some of your fellow TSA screeners who like to visit these forums and show everyone their skills. Those skills for the most part have been how to look like a fool and show people what asses they are. Many of them have been combative, argumentative and downright rude. They tend to validate much of what is said here.
There are exceptions and we welcome reasonable and courteous participation. I will tell you though that there are many posters here who have decided TSA is a waste and nothing you or anyone else can say will make a bit of difference.
I agree, there are many many really talented, smart and dedicated people in the TSA, I have three close friends who work there and they use common sense and try their best to do a good job. They joined for the best of reasons (to help fight the WOT. Problem is, I'm sure you'll admit, some of the processes you must follow are bogus and need attention. The focus is too much on what happened before and less on what could happen tomorrow. Taking away scissors is no longer a valid action and lots of people see that. In addition, some of your co-workers are full of themselves and like to throw their weight around. Many have poor customer skills and they are the ones who hurt your reputation.
Keep on doing a good job, and remember that 99% of the travellers have no quarrel with the TSA and in fact, appreciate you.
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Thanks to your wonderfully insightful post, I no longer have to assume anything about you - your post spoke volumes about you. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

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Wow, I agree with every word! Well, I'm an Ohioan, too (born and raised in Cleveland). Maybe that explains it!

Bruce

This first sentence told me everything about you I needed to know. Strangely enough this first sentence is also where I stopped reading.

rawbert

Sorry to offend, rawbert, just expressing my point of view from a perspective that you have not been subjected to.

Just as I know that all screeners do not fit the profile of those who have been belittled in these forums, the same also applies for the travelling public.

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[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cmhscreener:
Sorry to offend, rawbert, just expressing my point of view from a perspective that you have not been subjected to.[QUOTE]

A bit presumptious are'nt you?

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Just as I know that all screeners do not fit the profile of those who have been belittled in these forums, the same also applies for the travelling public.

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So let me get this right, the purpose of your post then is to educate us whiners that there is good and bad in all aspects of life
even with the TSA.
Wow! who would have thought!!
Mike



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I don't actually feel inconvenienced going through security at airports. What I feel is a combination of being robbed, because my tax dollars are paying for this farce, and appalled that this is the best my government could come up with .... the Great Pointy Object Search. BFDtm http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

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Beautiful post, porkyboy!

They had layoffs at Taco Bell? Nobody told me http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

Fight the WOT? Go get that evil WOT!! And then I hope you catch the VIG and the VOTANG.



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I beg your pardon !!

No, the purpose of my post was to invoke a response. Let me say that so far I'm impressed.

You know, I was only able to stumble across this website, because one of your posters had linked to a page on my website, and while checking out my webstats I noticed that my site had recieved several hits from here.

What a find!

cmhscreener, you have opend a real can of worms now. So sit back and get ready to laugh...LOL I get a real crack out of this site.

Firstly, I don't have an Ivy League education. I have a public college education that I paid for myself, including through the use of my veterans' benefits.

Secondly, I apologize if any of my Constitutional rights have made it difficult for you to perform your job. I didn't realize they were on the TSA's prohibited items list.

Pot. Kettle. Black. Don't assume that you know us, either.

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Bruce, thanks.
Closer than one would expect..I'm from Ashtabula.
Regards
Rick
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Well, obviously you lack that Ivy League education that we have all presumed that you did not possess; otherwise you would have attempted to evoke a response. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif

Welcome to FlyerTalk.




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You're making friends fast here with that opening statement. Physically, taking off one's shoes for your amusement is not a daunting task. However, when it is done without probable cause for doing so, you are 1)wasting our time and 2)stripsearching us. Therefore many of us object to 1)idiocy and 2)being humiliated just because your boss is a clueless @#$%.

How nice that you took the 'due to economical needs'. Therefore, nobody forced you to take this job. Claiming that you 'are only doing as you were instructed' isn't going to get you any sympathy here. Nobody forced you to take this job and please remember that Taco Bell, a company that does not treat the public in a most un-American fashion, is always hiring. So it's not like your only option for this portion of you life's work was 'Airport Traveler Harasser'.



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I guarantee you not half as much as we get out of you.

Mike

Could ACES possibly mean real "crack" (as in cocaine)? That could explain a lot! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Bruce

Yes I do get a real laugh on this site. Chicken Little has nothing on you guys with your "My civil rights are being violated" whine. If you were in some countries it would not be your rights you would be whining about being violated....LOL

Well, we're not in those countries, are we?

"Boy, if you guys were on the moon right now, you'd really be gasping for breath!"

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Thanks for the lesson, professor.

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You only have us to kick around for another 2 years, then it's back to the private organizations. Enjoy!

ROFL

I haven't kicked anyone around. If you have read my posts you will find I am not necessarily against the individual screener. But I am looking forward to a return to sanity and common sense at the airports.



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Tazi, that's all ANY of us are looking for.

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Hey folks, first time poster here. I just read how some folks think that in another two years TSA goes away and private security takes over again. This is partial possibility. Yes, there is a built in sunset clause that allows for private security companies to contract with the airlines for screening services. The issue is far deeper though. The ATSA requires that in the event of a re-privatization of screening services the contractor must maintain the same staffing, pay, benefits, and it will still be under TSA oversight. Tell me, and be truthful. What airline is willing to fork out 4.8 billion dollars annually for this operation? Additionally, if an airline chooses this route, who do you think will pay? Taxpayers fund this operation now, and we have many, many taxpayers. However, the entire working United States does not travel by air every day, so I believe there may be a problem with money there. It could make air travel unaffordable for the average person, or drive some air carriers who are on the bubble right into chapter 7. Personally, I don't see any air carrier stepping up to the plate for a piece of that action. The air carriers have it made. Screening services provided, and the liability is no longer on them. Pretty sweet deal. If it goes private, only the federal screeners will be replaced with private screeners. Federal supervisors, managers, directors, etc. will still be controlling the checkpoints and operations daily. Procedures will remain the same no matter who pays for the screeners. So my question to the board is this: What will the difference be with private screeners versus federal screeners? Same cost, same procedures and the same administration controlling operations. I fail to see any difference save one. Either the taxpayers foot the bill, or the traveling public picks up the tab. Thanks for your time reading my post and for any input you may provide.

There will be no difference at all except that if they do go private, ticket prices will go sky high and the airlines will be totally finished, no coming back from that either. The bill creating the TSA was written so that, even though there is an out, it will be cost prohibitive. At least now the screeners have to be US citizens.

jailer1...welcome to FT!! I agree with you that no airline is going to want to touch this bloated bureaucracy with a 10' pole.
What I fear is that if and when terrorism progresses beyond airports, does TSA create new bureaucratic divisions?
First time there's terrorism at a shopping mall, we get a 40,000 strong Mall Security Agency ( MSA). Then someone takes out a stadium and we get the Stadium Security Agency (SSA). There is no end to where this could go. TSA could eventually be the largest employer in the US. Will we be any safer?? I doubt it. We'll just lose more and more of the daily freedom we used to enjoy.

Welcome to FlyerTalk, jailer1.

That's a very good point. However, the job that the TSA is doing right now is unacceptable. Hopefully legislation will be introduced disbanding the TSA completely and turning aviation security over to private, competent firms who do not spend money insanely. Much as I would like to see the security fee that is extorted from me every time I fly dropped completely, I would be willing to extend it for use by private security firms only. At $10 per pax per trip, the private security firms will have no problem paying for themselves and we will be able to eliminate the financial and fascist albatross that currently hangs about the necks of the traveling public.



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(Just a temporary cease-fire, or moment of silence.)

With the news of the events that are taking place in Iraq, whether or not you agree with the decisions leading up to these events, please take a moment to show our troops your support. If you know someone who has a spouse or loved one serving, please take some of your time to offer them any needed assistance, let them know that our troops are in your thoughts and prayers.

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jailer1 ... aren't you the guy that suggested the way to cut down on LAS security lines was for the airlines to spread their schedules out better?
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You are correct! Amazing how quickly you can forget which boards are which!

Originally posted by Spiff
You're making friends fast here with that opening statement.

not looking for friends.

Originally posted by Spiff
Physically, taking off one's shoes for your amusement is not a daunting task.

not doing it for amusement, only to resolve an alarm.

Originally posted by Spiff
How nice that you took the 'due to economical needs'. Therefore, nobody forced you to take this job. Claiming that you 'are only doing as you were instructed' isn't going to get you any sympathy here.

not looking for sympathy, but, if you are: you can find it in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis.

Geez, it sure didn't take you long to show your butt. You're not doing yourself or your fellow TSA screeners any favors (I know, "not looking to do favors"). I sure wish some non combative & professional screeners would join in these discussions.
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Can't have been an alarm if screeners are demanding we take them off before going through the metal detector.



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