I witnessed a security breach at FLL
Jul 1, 2019, 7:39 pm
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I witnessed a security breach at FLL
Saturday at T1 A/B exit a man came out of the exit doors on his phone. I watched him walk to the side. He didn’t interact with anyone. Maybe 3 mins later a wheelchair came out of one of the doors and he walked back in, somehow making it through all 3 sets of doors before they closed. The worker with the wheelchair yelled at him and he said something (probably about leaving an item) as he ran through. There was no police or TSA in site and in fact a minute later a TSO (probably on break) casually walked out the exit doors. I had someone to pick up so I got him and got the hell out of there so I don’t know if there was a resolution. I’d have thought think that this happens more often than we think with these automated doors and no physical security personnel anymore, plus the language barrier of many passengers (not in this case it appears) and the entitlement of people that if they were already through they shouldn’t have to be rescreened (probably this story)
just thought id share.
just thought id share.
Jul 3, 2019, 9:25 am
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Jul 3, 2019, 9:27 am
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Jul 3, 2019, 12:14 pm
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That said, why did no one else get alarmed? Because the guy walked out a door and walked right back in, and there's no danger in that. When it comes to security theater, sometimes it's more local summer stock than a Broadway production. You have to let things slide sometimes because it just isn't truly important. It's certainly not worth a terminal dump, especially in South Florida where not everyone is walking around with a fully functional brain.
Jul 3, 2019, 2:37 pm
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Doesn't feel like a threat to me, but like the OP, if I was leaving anyway, I'd get the hell out of there. Not because of a bomb or anything.
But because if someone does report it... Well, you know what's likely to happen
But because if someone does report it... Well, you know what's likely to happen
Jul 3, 2019, 2:46 pm
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Before 9-11 millions were dying, every single day, due to security breaches at the airports. In fact, the planes crashing into the WTC killed less people than just every day life at the airport. Airports were massively underserved by security personnel. Most entrances were unmonitored, meaning people snuck in guns and shot people and then snuck out. People carried on bombs like nobody's business, and 1 out of 4 planes would arrive late because a bomb exploded and with half the plane destroyed it was much harder for the pilot to make that on-time arrival.
When you exited the airport it would feel like you were in the a warzone, what with all these machine-gun armed vehicles being allowed to just loiter at the curb, shooting at every other person who walked out of the airport.
We are very grateful you are reporting the security breach here. Because of people like you planes don't crash anymore, people don't get shot anymore, and America is, in general and in every specific detail as well, safer.
Jul 3, 2019, 7:05 pm
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Meh, it is more fun to be the "security" breach. Been there done that and no PAX were harmed in the operation of the airport or flight. Most of all TSA was none the wiser (as if they would be).
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Jul 3, 2019, 11:08 pm
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Please! Don't talking about security breach. There's no threats. If you see someone who left behinds in the entire concourse. You can't ask TSA or anyone else. They have to leave from the entire concourse. If you forget something. You must go back to TSA checkpoints on third level near ticket counter. They will taken care of it. So please don't bother with the passengers or anyone else. Minds your own business.
Jul 5, 2019, 7:52 pm
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Let me be 100% clear in my post...
FLL T-1 has the new unmanned exit doors that are designed to prevent this.
The man man was outside of security for 2-3 minutes. If I forget something behind security I go tell someone and get assistance. At FLL T-1 with no TSA and with the secure area being in between ticketing and baggage claim, this was not possible. However, the persons attitude was very rude and entitled, so I’m not sure if he even would have attempted.
Regardless of security theater, a lot could happen in 2 minutes outside of a secure area. If someone from the airport or TSA was right there I would have alerted them immediately. But the biggest issue I see here goes back to the automated exits. Maybe they weren’t such a bright idea after all?
FLL T-1 has the new unmanned exit doors that are designed to prevent this.
The man man was outside of security for 2-3 minutes. If I forget something behind security I go tell someone and get assistance. At FLL T-1 with no TSA and with the secure area being in between ticketing and baggage claim, this was not possible. However, the persons attitude was very rude and entitled, so I’m not sure if he even would have attempted.
Regardless of security theater, a lot could happen in 2 minutes outside of a secure area. If someone from the airport or TSA was right there I would have alerted them immediately. But the biggest issue I see here goes back to the automated exits. Maybe they weren’t such a bright idea after all?
Jul 5, 2019, 8:42 pm
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Let me be 100% clear in my post...
FLL T-1 has the new unmanned exit doors that are designed to prevent this.
The man man was outside of security for 2-3 minutes. If I forget something behind security I go tell someone and get assistance. At FLL T-1 with no TSA and with the secure area being in between ticketing and baggage claim, this was not possible. However, the persons attitude was very rude and entitled, so I’m not sure if he even would have attempted.
Regardless of security theater, a lot could happen in 2 minutes outside of a secure area. If someone from the airport or TSA was right there I would have alerted them immediately. But the biggest issue I see here goes back to the automated exits. Maybe they weren’t such a bright idea after all?
FLL T-1 has the new unmanned exit doors that are designed to prevent this.
The man man was outside of security for 2-3 minutes. If I forget something behind security I go tell someone and get assistance. At FLL T-1 with no TSA and with the secure area being in between ticketing and baggage claim, this was not possible. However, the persons attitude was very rude and entitled, so I’m not sure if he even would have attempted.
Regardless of security theater, a lot could happen in 2 minutes outside of a secure area. If someone from the airport or TSA was right there I would have alerted them immediately. But the biggest issue I see here goes back to the automated exits. Maybe they weren’t such a bright idea after all?
Neither was inventing TSA but that's just my opinion.
Jul 11, 2019, 11:34 am
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I think the OP was more concerned that ANYONE could have done what this individual did. I agree that since the individual left the secure area and darted back there was no threat but obviously not according to procedure.