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Old Jul 19, 2018, 1:48 pm
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One tactic to reduce asylum seeker claims is to meet aircraft. This is a way to identify the country where a passenger has flown in from due to some passengers destroying their passports and then claiming asylum at the immigration podium. All of a sudden the 22 year citizen of Pakistan is now a 16 year old Afghani asylum seeker. By meeting aircraft at the door, officers can determine the origination of the plane and can flush the toilet for the passport. Without a Passport, no deportation can be done.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by davistev
One tactic to reduce asylum seeker claims is to meet aircraft. This is a way to identify the country where a passenger has flown in from due to some passengers destroying their passports and then claiming asylum at the immigration podium. All of a sudden the 22 year citizen of Pakistan is now a 16 year old Afghani asylum seeker. By meeting aircraft at the door, officers can determine the origination of the plane and can flush the toilet for the passport. Without a Passport, no deportation can be done.
Interesting thanks.
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Old Jul 20, 2018, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by davistev
One tactic to reduce asylum seeker claims is to meet aircraft. This is a way to identify the country where a passenger has flown in from due to some passengers destroying their passports and then claiming asylum at the immigration podium. All of a sudden the 22 year citizen of Pakistan is now a 16 year old Afghani asylum seeker. By meeting aircraft at the door, officers can determine the origination of the plane and can flush the toilet for the passport. Without a Passport, no deportation can be done.
It doesn’t reduce asylum claims. It marginally helps reduce the chances of an asylum claim being successful on the basis of fraudulent claim.

Lots of Pakistani passports are fraudulently used by non-Pakistanis, including to lawfully claim asylum in places where an Afghan passport won’t take them as easily as some Pakistani passports. But also lots of Pakistanis can successfully claim asylum status even using a Pakistani passport in non-fraudulent ways. That is why the above example is not the best one to make the point of one of the reasons that DHS has some of these reception parties.

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Old Jul 20, 2018, 6:19 pm
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That is why the above example is not the best one to make the point of one of the reasons that DHS has some of these reception parties.

What's the better explanation as to why they separate citizens and non-citizens? Is it just to make it easier/faster to find a particular person they know to be a citizen or non-citizen?
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 1:40 pm
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yup.

Normal tactic for our TTRT guys and gals.
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by maninblack
yup.

Normal tactic for our TTRT guys and gals.
I had to Google that:
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by maninblack
yup.

Normal tactic for our TTRT guys and gals.
Sure, and it’s been used by DHS/CBP employees (and before DHS/CBP) even when there hasn’t been a credible terrorism angle to play against any passengers being sought on board.
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 4:58 pm
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It's primarily a scare tactic. Kabuki theater more than anything else.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 12:46 am
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Originally Posted by catocony
It's primarily a scare tactic. Kabuki theater more than anything else.
Come on, I doubt that CBP would devote resources to meeting a flight and dividing passengers by citizen/non-citizen for the purpose of "scaring" passengers. That doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
Come on, I doubt that CBP would devote resources to meeting a flight and dividing passengers by citizen/non-citizen for the purpose of "scaring" passengers. That doesn't make a lot of sense.
DHS/CBP/ICE have been engaged in “show of force” farces a lot too, and I have no doubt about that.
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