TSA wants to get more intimate when doing passenger pat downs.
Nov 24, 2018, 6:44 am
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I have linked to the demo video here a few times. That video shows you almost everything you can expect in a patdown - almost, it does not show a clear demonstration of how the lower legs and ankles/feet are patted.down. Most of the rest of the body is shown being patted down.
See the video for the best answer I can give you. As far as training to identify specific illegal drugs, I have seen none here at TSA - because we do not earch for illegal drugs. People have a myriad of experiences that may help them identify illegal drugs. With the increase in allowed use for certain drugs, there is a whole group of people that can identify illegal drugs without ever having used them. There are groups of people that have first knowledge of illegal drugs from teenage years (where most of us exhibited stellar decision making skills...), or from work that dealt with drugs - and are able to reasonably articulate whether something could be illegal drugs.
What to expect during a pat down.
See the video for the best answer I can give you. As far as training to identify specific illegal drugs, I have seen none here at TSA - because we do not earch for illegal drugs. People have a myriad of experiences that may help them identify illegal drugs. With the increase in allowed use for certain drugs, there is a whole group of people that can identify illegal drugs without ever having used them. There are groups of people that have first knowledge of illegal drugs from teenage years (where most of us exhibited stellar decision making skills...), or from work that dealt with drugs - and are able to reasonably articulate whether something could be illegal drugs.
What to expect during a pat down.
Nov 24, 2018, 11:25 am
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This is not the first time that I have had to post a reminder that the subject of this thread is the new TSA “comprehensive” physical screening protocol. It is not whether the TSA actively searches for drugs, the protocol of reporting drug finds to law enforcement or confiscation of medications.
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This morning, I read and deleted several posts which focused on whether the TSA screens for drugs or has the expertise to recognize drugs.
This thread is about enhanced physical screening procedures, not drugs.
Please stay on topic or risk the consequences. Consider this to be your final warning!
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Nov 25, 2018, 7:38 am
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When the father inquired, the agent told him, right before touching his son’s crotch, that this sort of thing had become necessary due to drug mules using children.
That can lead to only one conclusion: The TSA does search for drugs by groping the genitals of children using the guise that they are protecting the children.
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Nov 25, 2018, 8:49 am
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The question asked about TSA groping children in a search for "drug mules" still has not been answered, either here or at the blog.
That can lead to only one conclusion: The TSA does search for drugs by groping the genitals of children using the guise that they are protecting the children.
That can lead to only one conclusion: The TSA does search for drugs by groping the genitals of children using the guise that they are protecting the children.
TSA does not search for "drugs" specifically in any format of screening. TSA clears possible threat items (traditionally listed as WEI), in all formats of screening. I have given this answer a number of times. I have also clearly stated that someone making a statement to the contrary about "drugs" is wrong or mistaken.
So, one more time for those in the back -
1. TSA does not search specifically for "drugs" as a part of the pat down process
2. TSA does not search specifically for "drugs" as a part of the accessible property screening
3. TSA does not specifically search for "drugs" in any form of screening.
IF "drugs" are discovered as a part of a search for possible threat items, then it is reported to local LEOs, per directive and published information.
Nov 25, 2018, 9:42 am
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