Originally Posted by Section 107 (Post 26773507)

No, that is not what I said.

Let me try to put this in two other ways:

A.

1. The IGs auditors did not have specialized training nor specialized experience in smuggling prohibited items through a TSA checkpoint prior to being selected to participate in the tests.

2. After being selected to participate in the tests, but BEFORE actually conducting the tests, all team members received detailed preparation and training on how to conduct the tests from the security experts overseeing the tests.

B.

A few of the relevant steps of how the tests were conducted:

- decide to conduct the tests
- engage security experts, each with many years of specialized training and specialized experience, to plan and oversee the tests.
- The experts plan and prepare all protocols and procedures.
- Select participants from regular staff to conduct the tests.
- Brief, prepare and train the participants on the protocols and procedures.
- Conduct the tests.
- Evaluate the results.
- Report out.

Originally Posted by Section 107 (Post 26773507)

No, that is not what I said.

Let me try to put this in two other ways:

A.

1. The IGs auditors did not have specialized training nor specialized experience in smuggling prohibited items through a TSA checkpoint prior to being selected to participate in the tests.

2. After being selected to participate in the tests, but BEFORE actually conducting the tests, all team members received detailed preparation and training on how to conduct the tests from the security experts overseeing the tests.

B.

A few of the relevant steps of how the tests were conducted:

- decide to conduct the tests
- engage security experts, each with many years of specialized training and specialized experience, to plan and oversee the tests.
- The experts plan and prepare all protocols and procedures.
- Select participants from regular staff to conduct the tests.
- Brief, prepare and train the participants on the protocols and procedures.
- Conduct the tests.
- Evaluate the results.
- Report out.

Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26773885)

Maybe I'm missing the nuances. The IG states his auditors had no special knowledge or training. What I hear you saying is opposite of that remark.

Originally Posted by gingersnaps (Post 26782396)

Are you suggesting that the OIG test are so sophisticated that even the very elect would be dupped; or that the tests are beyond the capabilities of group of bad actors dedicated to fulfilling a mission?

DHS OIG noted that "layers of security were simply missing". Neffenger stated that leadership focused on metric outcomes (number of passenger through a checkpoint per hour) at the expense of diligent security.

Originally Posted by Section 107 (Post 26783455)

I really don't know how to make it any more clear then how it has already been stated. The auditors were not security experts. They were prepared/briefed/trained for the tests by security experts (they were not simply handed a prohibited item and told to just walk through the checkpoint).

Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26784162)

This position disagrees with the IG's testimony that the auditors had no special knowledge or training. If the auditors had no special training or knowledge how could they be trained for the test by security experts.

I cannot reconcile what the IG stated and what you are saying happened unless the IG was less than truthful.

Polar opposites.