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Sam Madison Jun 11, 2018 9:54 pm

The first official and diplomatic nextGen passports are scheduled to be issued in the first quarter of 2019 .

Valerian Jun 11, 2018 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by Sam Madison (Post 29856209)
The first official and diplomatic nextGen passports are scheduled to be issued in the first quarter of 2019 .

Link? But yeh, I am not surprised. So end of year next year or 2020 before regular issue.

Sam Madison Jun 12, 2018 12:15 am

Usgpo website they it .

Sam Madison Jun 12, 2018 12:17 am

The first Official and Diplomatic NextGen Passports are scheduled to be issued in the first quarter of 2019. These passports will incorporate new security features including a polycarbonate-based data page and alpha-numeric book numbers, which have required the development and testing of new production processes and techniques at the same time GPO has been producing substantial quantities of its existing secure identification products for Federal clients. In the months ahead, GPO will be working on the roll

iamflyer Jun 12, 2018 1:36 am

It's on page 10 of this pdf: https://www.gpo.gov/docs/default-sou...nce-report.pdf

Valerian Jun 12, 2018 5:42 pm

Welp. The tourist version of the current edition didn’t come out until about 9 months after they started issuing official and diplomatic passports. So we are likely looking at end of 2019, into 2020 for the next gen tourist passport to come out. And this assumes no more slippage (which has already been ridiculous).

GUWonder Jun 13, 2018 7:42 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 29857922)
I don't think there is a new ICAO specification to warrant a new design.

There isn’t. But it’s sort of like with high denomination currency notes: re-design product/process/policies to deliver in ways on the concerns of the worried — even in the absence of new, multilaterally agreed-upon specifications.

seawolf Jun 13, 2018 8:56 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 29861667)


There isn’t. But it’s sort of like with high denomination currency notes: re-design product/process/policies to deliver in ways on the concerns of the worried — even in the absence of new, multilaterally agreed-upon specifications.

True no new ICAO spec but the current design is only about 10 years old but more importantly are there any new security features available? The current design seem to contain security features found on new driver's license designs in the past ten years and also include RFID.

GUWonder Jun 13, 2018 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 29861922)
True no new ICAO spec but the current design is only about 10 years old but more importantly are there any new security features available?

Yes, at least in my view of what may constitute new security features for passports and other photo ID documents (including DLs).

I expect that due to the changes in US passport design, we will see yet another increase in the cost of people being issued US passports. I don’t welcome that.

TWA884 Jun 16, 2018 8:28 am

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Sam Madison Jul 5, 2018 11:37 am

October 2019 first us next generation passport for public .

Boggie Dog Jul 5, 2018 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by Sam Madison (Post 29941323)
October 2019 first us next generation passport for public .

Have any additional information?

Valerian Jul 11, 2018 10:54 am


Originally Posted by Sam Madison (Post 29941323)
October 2019 first us next generation passport for public .


Thanks Sam. Where is that coming from, and is there a link you can share?

Sam Madison Jul 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Hey it’s just a guess , but sure the end of 2019 for the public .

phltraveler Jul 12, 2018 9:02 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 29861922)
True no new ICAO spec but the current design is only about 10 years old but more importantly are there any new security features available? The current design seem to contain security features found on new driver's license designs in the past ten years and also include RFID.

Current passport does not use laser perforated holes with the document number. Doing so makes it hard to remove pages from one passport (like a stolen one) and substitute it into a different passport (laser etched document number of the bio page and the passport with the pages inserted won't match).

Polycarbonate page harder to counterfeit while providing the benefit of making it harder to bend/tear the document and document does not get damaged from getting wet.

Optically variable ink (inks that change color, like on some of the higher denomination US bills) along with raised features on the page (that you can feel with your fingers). Current document has barely any UV reactive seals/art (some specs on the inside of front cover before the bio page), new one will have more along with microprinting.


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