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Originally Posted by te36
(Post 29140309)
Argh.. ok. So i didn't know what polycarbonate meant and confused it with the laminated photo page. Thanks. So its just the same material as a credit card (or the german ID card). Maybe a tad better quality than cheap credit card ? ;-). RFID chip integrated. Docs i could find didn't say anything about RFID shield in cover so i guess that feature is not included, but the need for that may depend a bit on the security scheme used to allow read access to the RFID chip data.
With the polycarbonate i am getting worried if it would still be possible to get a passport within 24 hours like i just got my US passport because of immediately required travel. But the (polycarbonate) US passport card i ordered also takes longer because it can not be printed at a US passport agency but would be sent from some central federal printing service - 1..2 weeks i think they said at the passport agency. So if they would have to always print new US passports at the same location as the passport cards, fast passports will be a thing of the past. In Germany, express passport was 4 days. Not sure if this gets even worse with the new passport. All centrally printed (Bundesdruckerei). But fast shipping in germany (small) within <=24 hours is not a big issue/cost. So, I bet we're again trading customer benefits (fast passport) with security ?theater? benefits. Not really sure how much theater or real necessity the new security features are. Polycarbonate on a regular passport doesn’t meant limited validity emergency passport have to be polycarbonate. A US emergency passport today does not have RFID. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 29140860)
Polycarbonate on a regular passport doesn’t meant limited validity emergency passport have to be polycarbonate. A US emergency passport today does not have RFID.
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Originally Posted by te36
(Post 29143133)
Right. But you can get a fully normal US passport within 24 hours from a US passport agency. I bet the minimum turnaround time for a PolyPP will increase by days because of central location+shipping processing.
It's just a matter of deploying equipment to the two to three dozen or so passport agencies for them to cut their own polycarbonate passports as they do today with the current design. |
No, I think passport agencies have machines to produce passports. For the polycarbonate page, it would be a laser engraver, I guess, but there's no real point in having a passport agency if it cannot print passports on site, is there? The time taken to produce an engraved ID card is about the same as for a printed page. It's very fast. I think some can also produce passport cards - maybe the ones close to the Mexican or Canadian border, where more passport cards are likely requested? Maybe they'll reduce the number of agencies to save on equipment costs (I doubt this would be a reason for a few measly extra engravers), but this could have been Tillerson's cost-cutting plan anyway. Who knows.
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Originally Posted by cafeconleche
(Post 29144825)
No, I think passport agencies have machines to produce passports. For the polycarbonate page, it would be a laser engraver, I guess, but there's no real point in having a passport agency if it cannot print passports on site, is there? The time taken to produce an engraved ID card is about the same as for a printed page. It's very fast. I think some can also produce passport cards - maybe the ones close to the Mexican or Canadian border, where more passport cards are likely requested? Maybe they'll reduce the number of agencies to save on equipment costs (I doubt this would be a reason for a few measly extra engravers), but this could have been Tillerson's cost-cutting plan anyway. Who knows.
of senior personnel at DHS (including af TSA) is a sort of warning bell about new technology purchases being justified for procurement and deployment. I am expecting the new passport version to lead to a substanfial increase in passport costs, and I don’t welcome that. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 29144973)
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I am expecting the new passport version to lead to a substanfial increase in passport costs, and I don’t welcome that. |
Originally Posted by König
(Post 29148473)
Cost and other drama aside, do you know when they will start issuing the new passports? :-) As a document/ID nerd, I have been waiting for this new passport way too long. I hope early 2018 would be it.
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The artwork will remain the same? Drat!
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Originally Posted by cafeconleche
(Post 29201259)
The artwork will remain the same? Drat!
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Originally Posted by Airportismyadobe
(Post 29200067)
According to State Departments Twitter, no release date yet.
https://twitter.com/ryhuang/status/942647756463550464 |
I was also following this thread primarily in hopes the new passport would come out without the gaudy design, but I guess any hope of that was lost when it got delayed past Obama's administration.
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Haha, tone it down? It's America First, remember? At least with the design staying the same, it won't be worse!
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Originally Posted by cafeconleche
(Post 29217202)
Haha, tone it down? It's America First, remember? At least with the design staying the same, it won't be worse!
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 29218290)
The paper stock for the bulk of the passport books remaining as is would mean some trees get saved.
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Originally Posted by König
(Post 29221954)
I am not sure I understand what you mean. Can't they just use up all the remaining blanks and then start issuing redesigned passports?
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