US No-Fly List
 

Some of you may be interested in reading the No Fly List Manual.

Hopefully this new evidence will expose government perjury in the ongoing litigation surrounding the no fly list.

I think this is the primary source:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/a...3/blacklisted/

Don't be silly. This is serious stuff. One of these would be far more appropriate. :)

Here's the actual PDF. (144 MB)

I skimmed most of it; it is actually kind of boring. But good info to have out in the open.

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Agree, sunlight seems to be the best medicine, for the people to actually know what they're paying their government to do. Secret courts and secret lists have no place in a free, democratic society. They are a reversion to the age of absolute monarchs.

In this context, I highly recommend Trevor Paglen's Blank Spots on the Map, where he describes the "black world" created and expanded since world war II, with an interesting observation that being hidden (and thus unaccountable) seems to be accompanied by abuse and lawlessness.

It's far past time to tear away most of the "top secret" veil that serves mainly to keep the US citizenry unjustifiably in the dark about much of what the executive branch is doing.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/a...tch-commander/ has been deemed by the USG to be the product of a new national security establishment leaker -- and not Snowden --who has kindly attempted to show the country how out of control the US aviation blacklists have gotten under the current operators of what is the modern-day US equivalent of the notorious Star Chamber.

The link above also indicates some of what I've mentioned previously: the US uses offshoring and outsourcing -- but not only -- to also crack into foreign government and foreign commercial databases and come up with additions for US government blacklists.

Should we expect DHS/TSA word games about how this https://firstlook.org/theintercept/d...ishments-2013/ is not relevant to the US aviation blacklists? ;)

DTI Strategic Accomplishments 2013 direct PDF link (6MB)

Interesting that much of this is classified, not just SSI.

There is more to come. The real juicy US stuff is "classified" (and has never been SSI).

There is a whiff in the air making the rounds in the DC-area that -- perhaps unlike with torture -- the government is still at the margin where a massive surveillance state either survives for the duration of our Union or gets sort of contained now before it becomes the de facto norm for the duration of our Union. As that scent gets picked up more and more within the government and government contractor community, "leaker" of this classified information will be followed by another whistleblowing party ... unless and until the massive surveillance state becomes effective enough to discover the wannabe-leakers before they acquire and disseminate the information, unless and until that scent is snuffed out one way or another.

The government is going to end up realizing the merits of PPT-type presentations of classified info come with some complications. Not like all in government have the attention span to make a move to relying upon typewriters again anywhere close to generally practical for the million+ with government "security clearances" for "classified" info. ;)

The Administration is working on new ways to deal with the no-fly list and how people get dealt with when appealing placement on the list?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/us...list.html?_r=0

This unfortunate situation can mostly all end if the US stops the TSA from obsessing about passenger ID checks and instead fixes itself to focus on contraband weapons/explosives/incendiaries interdiction. Resources wasted on passenger ID checks and no-fly lists are resources that aren't being used to more effectively stop weapons/explosives/incendiaries from being smuggled onto planes.

Given we have an Administration that loves blacklists

don't be surprised if this change is mostly just window-dressing. Our government believes in the following for just the government: "better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission". For we, the people, the government wants us to continue to ask -- even beg/plea -- for permission to fly. :td: :td:

I'm not saying this is a fake, but, the front page is missing the required "classifed by" and "declassify on" notations. Drafts or working papers would be marked as such.

It's not a change, it is a promise to change. He could have made changes with the stroke of a pen, but did not. Blowing smoke.