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SkyTeam777 Jul 6, 2014 8:59 am

Has anyone seen jetway gate checks in any airports outside of where they were already? Typically central and South America have them and China-departing flights. Also I've seen them at JNB...has the new threat brought them elsewhere?

RJ1 Jul 6, 2014 12:10 pm

I saw a breaking news headline this morning that says we will be required to turn on our smartphones (presumably to prove they are indeed smartphones).

chucko Jul 6, 2014 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by RJ1 (Post 23151916)
I saw a breaking news headline this morning that says we will be required to turn on our smartphones (presumably to prove they are indeed smartphones).

Heard a similar report on the BBCWS this morning. If they ask you to power up your laptop/pad/gadget at the checkpoint, and it has a dead batt or otherwise won't turn on, it won't be making the flight.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28185149

OverThereTooMuch Jul 6, 2014 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by RJ1 (Post 23151916)
I saw a breaking news headline this morning that says we will be required to turn on our smartphones (presumably to prove they are indeed smartphones).

If the bomb goes off on a plane or at a checkpoint, doesn't it still have the same impact on the world economy?

javabytes Jul 6, 2014 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by chucko (Post 23152024)
Heard a similar report on the BBCWS this morning. If they ask you to power up your laptop/pad/gadget at the checkpoint, and it has a dead batt or otherwise won't turn on, it won't be making the flight.

Sheer idiocy, confiscating phones and laptops just because they have a dead battery.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/us/tsa...html?hpt=hp_t2

Spiff Jul 6, 2014 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 23152308)
Sheer idiocy, confiscating phones and laptops just because they have a dead battery.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/us/tsa...html?hpt=hp_t2

This scumbag agency appears to be trying to do its Christmas shopping early.

Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson directed the TSA last week to enhance security at overseas airports that have direct flights to the United States. The specifics of the enhanced measures weren't originally released, and it isn't known what other measures the TSA may employ.

Meet the new jackass. Same as the old jackass. At least the last couple of jackasses had complete first names.

KDS Jul 6, 2014 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 23152438)
This scumbag agency appears to be trying to do its Christmas shopping early.

Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson directed the TSA last week to enhance security at overseas airports that have direct flights to the United States. The specifics of the enhanced measures weren't originally released, and it isn't known what other measures the TSA may employ.

Meet the new jackass. Same as the old jackass. At least the last couple of jackasses had complete first names.

:p:p

I didn't see this thread before I'd posted a related reply in another thread; so I'll "repeat" it here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23152433-post15.html

GUWonder Jul 6, 2014 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 23152308)
Sheer idiocy, confiscating phones and laptops just because they have a dead battery.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/us/tsa...html?hpt=hp_t2

They are trying to roll this out to more airports but it hasn't been implemented for all US-bound flights yet at least.

These DHS/TSA circus characters are so busy obsessing over the trivial that they can't focus on contraband WEI interdiction in an intelligent manner -- instead they come up with another circus show performance which doesn't focus even on screening for explosives. This does focus on electronics which may be used to conceal explosives but don't have any explosives -- this seems a desperate CYA move by DHS/TSA that just goes to show how DHS/TSA is unable to reliably interdict contraband WEIs even when frogmarching its covered airlines, the related contractors and foreign authorities too.

GUWonder Jul 6, 2014 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch (Post 23152033)
If the bomb goes off on a plane or at a checkpoint, doesn't it still have the same impact on the world economy?

If IEDs start going off in rapid succession at airport screening checkpoints with unnecessarily long lines because of the TSA dog and pony show, then you can bet that would turn off air travel (in some places) way more than a single plane or handful of planes from that airport being attacked by terrorist's bomb(s),

FliesWay2Much Jul 6, 2014 3:10 pm

Skeletor
 
Anybody notice they interviewed Chertoff in the CNN story???

jpetekYXMD80 Jul 6, 2014 4:25 pm

This is exactly why TSA/directives exist in the first place. To be able to make intelligence based adjustments to evolving threats. And it seems that is exactly what they are doing.

Don't always agree with TSA but glad they are there instead of our gang of anti-government extremists.

saulblum Jul 6, 2014 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by jpetekYXMD80 (Post 23153011)
This is exactly why TSA/directives exist in the first place. To be able to make intelligence based adjustments to evolving threats. And it seems that is exactly what they are doing.

Don't always agree with TSA but glad they are there instead of our gang of anti-government extremists.

Until these cunning terrorists realize that they just have to ensure their devices that look like tablets or laptops have the capability to look like they're booting up.

Spiff Jul 6, 2014 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by jpetekYXMD80 (Post 23153011)
This is exactly why TSA/directives exist in the first place. To be able to make intelligence based adjustments to evolving threats. And it seems that is exactly what they are doing.

Don't always agree with TSA but glad they are there instead of our gang of anti-government extremists.

TSA scumbag "leaders" employ no intelligence when they issue stupid directives like these.

I hope you're still willing to fly after TSA is kicked out of out airports and its scumbag leaders and many of its employees are sent to prison.

jpetekYXMD80 Jul 6, 2014 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 23153030)
TSA scumbag "leaders" employ no intelligence when they issue stupid directives like these.


And you know this how? Of course it came from intelligence.



Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 23153030)

I hope you're still willing to fly after TSA is kicked out of out airports and its scumbag leaders and many of its employees are sent to prison.


I can't say much other than you are one of the most delusional men completely out of touch with reality as i've ever come across. With the conviction you type, it almost sounds like you see that as even a faint possibility. You live in a dream. If you really believe that, make a bet with me on it. 1000:1 odds. Put your money where your mouth is.

saulblum Jul 6, 2014 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 23152645)
If IEDs start going off in rapid succession at airport screening checkpoints with unnecessarily long lines because of the TSA dog and pony show, then you can bet that would turn off air travel (in some places) way more than a single plane or handful of planes from that airport being attacked by terrorist's bomb(s),

A series of coordinated suicide bombings at checkpoints at a few major airports nationwide would bring US aviation to its knees. And not one damn thing the TSA does would be able to stop such an attack.


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