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saizai Sep 5, 2014 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 23466961)
If she has a passport, why not apply for global entry instead? It only cost $15 more and comes with an ID card that can be used at TSA checkpoints.

How is that ID card better than, y'know, her passport?

Randyk47 Sep 5, 2014 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 23466961)
If she has a passport, why not apply for global entry instead? It only cost $15 more and comes with an ID card that can be used at TSA checkpoints.


Originally Posted by saizai (Post 23480279)
How is that ID card better than, y'know, her passport?

I've started using mine instead of my drivers license and certainly easier to carry and show than my passport. I never carry my passport for domestic travel but my GE card is always with me.

Ari Sep 5, 2014 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by saizai (Post 23480279)
How is that ID card better than, y'know, her passport?

For PreCheck to work, the name in SecureFlight must match the name in the GOES account. The name on the GE card will match the name on the GOES account. Also, it is a card and not a booklet. It is less susceptible to damage and more compact to carry than a passport. It fits in a wallet.

CDKing Sep 5, 2014 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by Randyk47 (Post 23480444)
I've started using mine instead of my drivers license and certainly easier to carry and show than my passport. I never carry my passport for domestic travel but my GE card is always with me.

I keep my passport on me even though i use GE card as ID. You never know when you will need to be rerouted via another country to get home. It happened to a few people I had met during Hurricane Sandy stranding. Well the options were offered but passports were not on them, so no go.

FriendlySkies Sep 5, 2014 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23482461)
I keep my passport on me even though i use GE card as ID. You never know when you will need to be rerouted via another country to get home. It happened to a few people I had met during Hurricane Sandy stranding. Well the options were offered but passports were not on them, so no go.

Bingo. A friend a few years back was offered IAD-NRT-HNL, due to all IAD-xxx-HNL options being sold out/canceled due to weather. They didn't carry a passport for domestic trips, so it meant having to spend a day or two in a hotel near IAD until space opened up.

dustman81 Sep 5, 2014 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23482461)
I keep my passport on me even though i use GE card as ID. You never know when you will need to be rerouted via another country to get home. It happened to a few people I had met during Hurricane Sandy stranding. Well the options were offered but passports were not on them, so no go.

I always carry my passport as backup ID when I fly, in case my wallet gets lost or stolen.

Randyk47 Sep 6, 2014 10:47 am


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23482461)
I keep my passport on me even though i use GE card as ID. You never know when you will need to be rerouted via another country to get home. It happened to a few people I had met during Hurricane Sandy stranding. Well the options were offered but passports were not on them, so no go.

My chances of having to route through a foreign country right now are slim to none.....not many between here and DC or Atlanta which are the vast majority of my domestic business trips right now. :)

kyden Sep 6, 2014 11:02 am


Originally Posted by dustman81 (Post 23482698)
I always carry my passport as backup ID when I fly, in case my wallet gets lost or stolen.

Ditto. Some people take it a step further by having a photocopy of their passport in their luggage.

Randyk47 Sep 6, 2014 11:38 am


Originally Posted by kyden (Post 23484495)
Ditto. Some people take it a step further by having a photocopy of their passport in their luggage.

We do that when we travel OCONUS.

YKF Sep 6, 2014 11:59 am

TSA agents are useless

FliesWay2Much Sep 7, 2014 3:58 am


Originally Posted by Randyk47 (Post 23484447)
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Originally Posted by CDKing


I keep my passport on me even though i use GE card as ID. You never know when you will need to be rerouted via another country to get home. It happened to a few people I had met during Hurricane Sandy stranding. Well the options were offered but passports were not on them, so no go.




My chances of having to route through a foreign country right now are slim to none.....not many between here and DC or Atlanta which are the vast majority of my domestic business trips right now.

Washington is inside the 100-mile Constitution-Free Zone, so it's a good idea to take the passport because you never know when you will be required to prove your citizenship at a checkpoint.

Randyk47 Sep 7, 2014 6:15 am


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 23487239)
Washington is inside the 100-mile Constitution-Free Zone, so it's a good idea to take the passport because you never know when you will be required to prove your citizenship at a checkpoint.

?????? Lived there 16 years and I have no idea what you are talking about. Never saw, stopped at, or was questioned at any checkpoint.

catocony Sep 7, 2014 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Randyk47 (Post 23487543)
?????? Lived there 16 years and I have no idea what you are talking about. Never saw, stopped at, or was questioned at any checkpoint.

He's being snarky. The Border Patrol sets up stops on highways in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas that are 20-50 miles from the border. Some on Flyertalk say that since they're "legal" there, then they would be legal in any area with 100 miles of any border - including the Atlantic and Pacific.

FLgrr Sep 7, 2014 11:58 am


Originally Posted by TSAPressSec (Post 23068962)
Hello, FlyerTalk. My name is Ross, and I am the press secretary for TSA in Washington, D.C.

I have used FT for many years in my personal capacity, but thought it was time to join FT in my official capacity.

I know many of you have questions regarding our programs/policies, etc., and I am going to do my best to assist and point you in the right direction.

Look forward to chatting with you.

-Ross

If you are really with the TSA then get stuff solved and have a way for the passenger (THE TAXPAYER IN MANY CASES) to get the situation corrected, like when the Nitro Pills are taken away and you are told the website is out of date and rules changed that morning. THAT IS WRONG AND OFFENSIVE to people that are doing everything legal and not a threat to YOUR system.

FliesWay2Much Sep 7, 2014 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by Randyk47 (Post 23487543)
?????? Lived there 16 years and I have no idea what you are talking about. Never saw, stopped at, or was questioned at any checkpoint.


Originally Posted by catocony (Post 23488297)
He's being snarky. The Border Patrol sets up stops on highways in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas that are 20-50 miles from the border. Some on Flyertalk say that since they're "legal" there, then they would be legal in any area with 100 miles of any border - including the Atlantic and Pacific.

Actually, there was considerable discussion about this a while back.

https://aclu.global.ssl.fastly.net/s...reezonemap.png

There was an interview with the NYPD police chief (Guy who came after Kelly) and the Port Of NY Border Patrol chief. The reporter asked them if they would set up suspicionless internal border checkpoints in NYC, since it was within the 100-mile border corridor. They didn't say "No." They said that it wouldn't be practical.


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