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loops Mar 30, 2014 1:23 pm

Removal from "No-Fly" List
 
One person has finally succeeded in getting off the No-Fly list after a seven year battle. I wonder how much it cost. :confused:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...t-no-fly-list/

yandosan Mar 30, 2014 1:49 pm

Hell, it only took about 4 years to get off McCarthy's Red list back in the 1950's.
Something very kooky must be going on.

desmando Mar 31, 2014 7:43 am


Originally Posted by loops (Post 22616393)
One person has finally succeeded in getting off the No-Fly list after a seven year battle. I wonder how much it cost. :confused:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...t-no-fly-list/

Her lawyer asked for $3.5 Million for legal fees.

SeriouslyLost Mar 31, 2014 8:26 am


Originally Posted by desmando (Post 22620761)
Her lawyer asked for $3.5 Million for legal fees.

Seems reasonable.

FlyingHoustonian Mar 31, 2014 8:50 am


Originally Posted by desmando (Post 22620761)
Her lawyer asked for $3.5 Million for legal fees.

From Uncle Sam, not from Ibrahim. Her work was Sonny Bono :eek:;)

"Ibrahim's pro bono attorney, Elizabeth Pipkin, has asked for the government to pay more than $3.5 million to cover her legal fees and costs. Alsup didn't rule on that motion, but said that the issue was "not easy," while indicating that Pipkin is unlikely to be entitled to such a large payout."

DIFIN Mar 31, 2014 6:12 pm

keep on telling me that we don't live in a police state

Loose Cannon Apr 1, 2014 12:19 am

The no fly list should be abolished.

RedSnapper Apr 1, 2014 5:08 am

Here is the thread on the case : Ibrahim v. DHS

Ari Apr 1, 2014 5:32 am


Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian (Post 22621180)
From Uncle Sam, not from Ibrahim. Her work was Sonny Bono :eek:;)

"Ibrahim's pro bono attorney, Elizabeth Pipkin, has asked for the government to pay more than $3.5 million to cover her legal fees and costs. Alsup didn't rule on that motion, but said that the issue was "not easy," while indicating that Pipkin is unlikely to be entitled to such a large payout."

It is "not easy" because the judge has to hit the taxpayers with a huge bill for the government's misbehavior. Almost every factor for a large award of fees in this case is present. Will it be $3.5 million? 2 million? 1.5 million? We'll find out soon enough. Certainly the award should exceed lodestar rates for a case like this.

mikeef Apr 2, 2014 2:07 pm

[sarcasm] See, I don't know why everyone gets so upset about the no-fly list. Clearly, it's possible to get yourself removed.[/sarcasm]

Mike

GUWonder Apr 3, 2014 6:12 am


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 22637319)
[sarcasm] See, I don't know why everyone gets so upset about the no-fly list. Clearly, it's possible to get yourself removed.[/sarcasm]

Mike

:D

The sad thing is that would be the kind of excuse the government can and does use to lawfully continue this administrative blacklist nonsense.

mikeef Apr 3, 2014 9:30 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 22640722)
:D

The sad thing is that would be the kind of excuse the government can and does use to lawfully continue this administrative blacklist nonsense.

Wonder if this is like the TSA in reverse:

"The one person who was removed from the blacklist is in no way representative of the 40,000 potential terrorists that we track every day..."

Mike

DeafBlonde Apr 3, 2014 9:48 am


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 22641637)
Wonder if this is like the TSA in reverse:

"The one person who was removed from the blacklist is in no way representative of the 40,000 potential terrorists that we track every day..."

Mike

:confused:I thought that everyone who wanted to travel on commercial airliners was a "potential terrorist."

mikeef Apr 4, 2014 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by DeafBlonde (Post 22641756)
:confused:I thought that everyone who wanted to travel on commercial airliners was a "potential terrorist."

Sorry, you are correct. I should have written, "double-secret-probation potential terrorist."

Mike

KDS Apr 6, 2014 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by DeafBlonde (Post 22641756)
:confused:I thought that everyone who wanted to travel on commercial airliners was a "potential terrorist."

Yes-siree-bob....that is the basis for my tagline in my signature.


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