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NYT on behavior detection, again
Another article showing there is n scientific support for the program, which will again be ignored by the TSA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/sc...h.html?hp&_r=0 |
Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
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Another article showing there is n scientific support for the program, which will again be ignored by the TSA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/sc...h.html?hp&_r=0 TSA has proven time and time again thatbit feels itself to be exempt from rule of law or accountability or oversight in every way. |
But critics say there’s no evidence that these efforts have stopped a single terrorist or accomplished much beyond inconveniencing tens of thousands of passengers a year. The T.S.A. seems to have fallen for a classic form of self-deception: the belief that you can read liars’ minds by watching their bodies.
Pissant deserves nothing less than life without parole in prison. |
But think of the children! ;)
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I got 7/10 on the quiz. I missed three of the first five and then got five in a row. But I think I'd better do a more in-depth inspection on the woman who says she likes "Trainspotting." She
Mike |
My favorite part is that the science shows that supposed behavior detection is worse than chance alone.
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My favorite part was the only scientific survey conducted with real stress on the subjects being studied showed an 80% success rate.
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
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My favorite part was the only scientific survey conducted with real stress on the subjects being study showed an 80% success rate.
I'm sure you will go far in your TSA career. (Edit list to lost) |
Originally Posted by OldGoat
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Are you suggesting that TSA checkpoints are or should be designed to produce the same level of stress as someone pleading for the return of a lost relative? That's the only way the 80% number was reached.
I'm sure you will go far in your TSA career. (Edit list to lost) |
Originally Posted by gsoltso
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My favorite part was the only scientific survey conducted with real stress on the subjects being study showed an 80% success rate.
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
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My favorite part was the only scientific survey conducted with real stress on the subjects being study showed an 80% success rate.
Forget reading the article, everyone needs to read the study. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, in common between what they did in this study and what the BDOs do at the airport. Mike |
Originally Posted by gsoltso
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My favorite part was the only scientific survey conducted with real stress on the subjects being study showed an 80% success rate.
But I also loved the part where it said that even among those that the BDO program "caught", it has only a 1% arrest rate. In other words, only 1% of the people that the BDOs pick out as suspicious are actually doing something worth of arrest. Ya gotta love a 1% success rate, West, ya just gotta love it! |
Adam Kokesh has a youtube video where he videotapes himself asking TSA
goons how many terrorists they have caught. Embarrassed, and in no mood to put up with a common citizen asserting his rights, Bobby the Behavior Detection expert comes to the rescue and bullies Adam away. There's something troubling (and ridiculous) about 1st Amendment rights being perceived as suspicious behavior post 9/11. This can't be America. |
The upward eye movement part was telling to me. I am sure that is what the BDO voodoo scientists are looking for based on recent experience. The last time I walked through a checkpoint, the TSO actually commented on the fact that I had made an upward eye role when he asked me something I did not hear (I had an elderly person with me and was making sure he had his documents with him, so I wasn´t paying much attention in a noisy area). Apparently I role my eyes up a lot (probably even more when going through annoying checkpoints with pointless "security" measures).
So they are trained to look eye rolls, which have been proven not to have any relationship with lying: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0040259 |
Originally Posted by mikeef
(Post 22578344)
I got 7/10 on the quiz. I missed three of the first five and then got five in a row. But I think I'd better do a more in-depth inspection on the woman who says she likes "Trainspotting." She
Mike SPOTNik program is all about intimidation. All the clerks have to do is to walk around and intently stare at people. Many will be spooked and start spilling their guts about all sorts of things they feel guilty about. The SPOTNik program is similar to polygraphs in that many polygraph confessions have noting to do with the actual test. I've known many government polygraphers who have told me that a lot of people simply get spooked by all the gadgets, straps, wires, blood pressure collars, etc, and start spilling their guts. |
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