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I predict we're going to lose an aircraft at takeoff from a ground-launched MANPAD outside the airport perimeter before we're going to lose one to a cargo-hold explosive. And we'll probably lose ten aircraft to cargo bombs before anybody tries a suicide carry-aboard bomb again.

We will NEVER lose an aircraft to an unarmed, unbombed individual who passes through screening armed only with evil intentions.

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Originally Posted by TheRoadie (Post 20964193)

We will NEVER lose an aircraft to an unarmed, unbombed individual who passes through screening armed only with evil intentions.

EgyptAir 990?

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Originally Posted by TheRoadie (Post 20964193)

We will NEVER lose an aircraft to an unarmed, unbombed individual who passes through screening armed only with evil intentions.

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Originally Posted by mduell (Post 20967245)

EgyptAir 990?

I presume you understand that individual, in this case and in context, means a passenger. And the point is an unarmed passenger is not going to take over a plane post-9/11.

The actions of the pilot/copilot are a different matter entirely.

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Originally Posted by mduell (Post 20967245)

EgyptAir 990?

You do have a point, but flight staff malfeasance can NEVER be 100% guarded against. So I shouldn't have been so absolute in my first statement. ^ They can be armed. They have fire axes. They know how to push the controls forward. They can bonk the other pilot over the head and shut off the engines. So the existing certification and vetting processes are good enough for my comfort level.

A flight attendant who gains trusted access to the flight deck can also take down a plane. Using surprise, first class cutlery, or a broken wine bottle.

Passengers who get screened are not going to get through the cockpit door.

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Originally Posted by danielonn (Post 20954590)

It has always dawned on me why the airlines require you to enter your passport details for international travel but you are not required to enter your Drivers License or State ID number for domestic travel.

Wouldn't it make sense for passengers to be required to enter their Drivers License or State ID or whatever ID they plan to use when booking the reservation? It would be a good idea to have either the Drivers License State ID and Passport ID# stored in the profile and the DHS would be able to see if you have a warrant or other suspicious circumstance and not clear you to fly.

One other idea is before you can print your boarding pass the DHS could have you fill out a survey answering questions like a "Pre-screen" survey that they do for job selection online. In return for answering psychological based questions you can be allowed to bring on liquids etc. Of course your background check is run at the time as well.

He's kidding, right?