Known Crewmember Program: No more AA crew cutting security lines
One thing that used to annoy me a lot before pre-check was uniformed crew members cutting the security line. I've witnessed some pretty heated confrontations between crew and pax on a few occasions. I overheard some FAs on a flight today bragging how nice it was that they finally implemented this program for AA FAs starting today. Some on the crew knew about it, some didn't.
The Known Crewmember Program now makes life a little easier for both crew and pax as the crew now have their own separate entrance and don't have to cut the line. I'm all for abolishing the TSA but this and pre-check are two programs they actually got right. |
So, what is this? Are they going through the pre-check line?
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So they use the precheck line? Makes sense, great for those airports that are using precheck.
I've never understood the annoyance for pilots/crew cutting the line for security, personally. |
Certainly makes it easier for pilots and flight attendants to carry prohibited items into the sterile area, if they choose to:
http://www.knowncrewmember.org/Pages/Crewmembers.aspx No more x-ray of their bags unless selected for random screening. Had this been in place on Friday morning, the flight attendant arrested at ORD with a gun in her bag would likely have avoided detection. |
Not the pre-check line - a different area altogether. If they did this at all airports, then the only line crashers would be the fast food workers who are late for their shifts!
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Originally Posted by RxCapt
(Post 19755714)
The Known Crewmember Program now makes life a little easier for both crew and pax as the crew now have their own separate entrance and don't have to cut the line. I'm all for abolishing the TSA but this and pre-check are two programs they actually got right.
Originally Posted by FWAAA
(Post 19755803)
Certainly makes it easier for pilots and flight attendants to carry prohibited items into the sterile area, if they choose to:
http://www.knowncrewmember.org/Pages/Crewmembers.aspx No more x-ray of their bags unless selected for random screening. Had this been in place on Friday morning, the flight attendant arrested at ORD with a gun in her bag would likely have avoided detection. |
At JFK, crew members in the program go in through the out door. That is, the door to the left of the security area, guarded by the TSA, through which passengers can exit the sterile area on the departures level.
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Originally Posted by RxCapt
(Post 19755714)
The Known Crewmember Program now makes life a little easier for both crew and pax as the crew now have their own separate entrance and don't have to cut the line. I'm all for abolishing the TSA but this and pre-check are two programs they actually got right. No one should be screened any differently than anyone else without clear, probable cause to do so. No one should ever have to show ID to travel, nor should showing ID bestow any special privileges. And I'm all for abolishing the TSA and their stupidity. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 19756539)
And I'm all for abolishing the TSA and their stupidity. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 19756539)
I disagree completely.
No one should be screened any differently than anyone else without clear, probable cause to do so. If we know he doesn't have a boxcutter on him, we can all feel totally safe. |
Originally Posted by sellouts
(Post 19755780)
I've never understood the annoyance for pilots/crew cutting the line for security, personally.
Honestly, flight crews cutting security lines doesn't bother me all that much since there is often a necessity for them to get through quickly, but the fast-food and concession stand workers doing it really grinds my gears. These people have a job that starts at a specific time, and they really need to factor the security line into their commute. It pisses me off every time I see it. |
I really can't believe that crew don't even go through a minimal screening like Xray. This now has to be the weakest point in "security".
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Originally Posted by sellouts
(Post 19755780)
I've never understood the annoyance for pilots/crew cutting the line for security, personally.
I think they should use normal line when they cut the line. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 19756539)
No one should ever have to show ID to travel,...
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Originally Posted by gemac
(Post 19757291)
Right. Because the pilot could have a boxcutter in his pocket, could hold it to the neck of a flight attendant, force his way into the cockpit, and fly the airplane into a building if he didn't have to go through the same security as everyone else. :rolleyes:
If we know he doesn't have a boxcutter on him, we can all feel totally safe. The object in question does not have to be used by him/her on his/her own flight! |
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