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OldGoat Nov 1, 2012 6:39 am

TSA Agent Arrested for Rape
 
A very sad story of a TSA agent who apparently was charged with the rape of a northeast Ohio boy the agent had been mentoring as a big brother.

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/19967337/this-just-in-TSA-agent-charged-with-rape/

Spiff Nov 1, 2012 6:44 am

Try this link.

RatherBeOnATrain Nov 1, 2012 6:45 am

Why is TSA sending employees to Germany?
 
OP's link didn't work for me, but I was able to find the story:

19 ActionNews:
TSA Agent arrested for rape

November 1, 2012


Here's a short quote:
Cleveland Sex Crimes investigators built a case against [the TSA agent charged with rape] and he was arrested at the airport in Newark, NJ.

He had gone to work for the TSA in Germany.
So, why is TSA sending their employees to Germany?

chollie Nov 1, 2012 7:59 am


Originally Posted by RatherBeOnATrain (Post 19603784)

He had gone to work for the TSA in Germany.

So, why is TSA sending their employees to Germany?

We (the taxpayers) send favored TSOs to other countries to advise them on how to improve their security by aligning with US practices.

Everyone knows that European security is notoriously slack - no ID checks, no shoe removal, no barking/loud taped loops/proliferation of signs, no functionless gawpers standing around doing nothing. Germany's even more suspect - they led the movement against the BKSX NoS, meaning unless they improve their crotch-grabs/hands in pants/hands on breasts SOP, we're all at risk.

Who better than this clown to show them how a 'proper' crotch grab should be performed on someone who is powerless to protest?

Spiff Nov 1, 2012 8:09 am

Don't forget - TSA employees deserve the same presumption of innocence that they afford the traveling public. @:-)

chollie Nov 1, 2012 8:14 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 19604209)
Don't forget - TSA employees deserve the same presumption of innocence that they afford the traveling public. @:-)

You're right, of course.

And I realize that one 'bad apple' is in no way representative of the millions of innocent pax who run the TSA gauntlet every day.

goalie Nov 1, 2012 9:03 am

Cue the TSA rubber stamp...... :rolleyes:

mahohmei Nov 1, 2012 9:50 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 19604133)
We (the taxpayers) send favored TSOs to other countries to advise them on how to improve their security by aligning with US practices.

Everyone knows that European security is notoriously slack - no ID checks, no shoe removal, no barking/loud taped loops/proliferation of signs, no functionless gawpers standing around doing nothing. Germany's even more suspect - they led the movement against the BKSX NoS, meaning unless they improve their crotch-grabs/hands in pants/hands on breasts SOP, we're all at risk.

Who better than this clown to show them how a 'proper' crotch grab should be performed on someone who is powerless to protest?

I can back up European airport security being lax. I have relatives who live in Geneva and Madrid, and they wear hard hats whenever they go outside, since non-X-rayed shoes are blowing up aircraft in flight on a continuous basis, and Europe is a continuous rainstorm of aircraft parts.

FliesWay2Much Nov 1, 2012 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 19604133)
We (the taxpayers) send favored TSOs to other countries to advise them on how to improve their security by aligning with US practices.

Everyone knows that European security is notoriously slack - no ID checks, no shoe removal, no barking/loud taped loops/proliferation of signs, no functionless gawpers standing around doing nothing. Germany's even more suspect - they led the movement against the BKSX NoS, meaning unless they improve their crotch-grabs/hands in pants/hands on breasts SOP, we're all at risk.

Who better than this clown to show them how a 'proper' crotch grab should be performed on someone who is powerless to protest?

Maybe he was teaching them the German word for "resistance" -- Widerstand

mahohmei Nov 1, 2012 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 19606216)
Maybe he was teaching them the German word for "resistance" -- Widerstand

I just had to Google Translate that, since I thought you were being snarky. Wow. :-)

Ari Nov 1, 2012 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 19606216)
Maybe he was teaching them the German word for "resistance" -- Widerstand

:D^

chollie Nov 1, 2012 2:27 pm

Probably teaching his German counterparts that in the US, if you encounter 'resistance' during a grope, SOP says you have to handle it.

mahohmei Nov 1, 2012 2:30 pm

I'm also wondering why other countries even allow TSA clerks contact with their own airport security. Do they deal with it as a bureaucratic requirement to be allowed to have flights to the USA?

chollie Nov 1, 2012 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 19606668)
I'm also wondering why other countries even allow TSA clerks contact with their own airport security. Do they deal with it as a bureaucratic requirement to be allowed to have flights to the USA?

Yup.

Superguy Nov 1, 2012 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by OldGoat (Post 19603759)
A very sad story of a TSA agent who apparently was charged with the rape of a northeast Ohio boy the agent had been mentoring as a big brother.

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/19...ged-with-rape/

Big brother ... anyone else see the irony here?

Hope they castrate the guy if found guilty. :td:

chollie Nov 1, 2012 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 19606801)
Big brother ... anyone else see the irony here?

Hope they castrate the guy if found guilty. :td:

Whoa...that would condemn him to a lifetime of 'anomaly resolution gropes' every time he went through the NoS:

"Something suspicious going on with your resistance, dude, we have to size up the situation and decide how to handle it. Step this way please" (snapping of blue gloves).

lovely15 Nov 1, 2012 3:07 pm

So....touch a young boy at a checkpoint, and it's national security.

Touch a young boy somewhere else and it's illegal. Hmmmm....

(Yes, I realize the rape charge means something other than touching happened, but my point still stands)

TheGolfWidow Nov 1, 2012 3:14 pm

How is something like this even possible for someone with the highest ethical standards who was conducting himself with integrity???

RatherBeOnATrain Nov 1, 2012 6:19 pm

TSO Paul Magnuson arrested for 'rape of young boy' he was mentoring thru Big Brothers
 
An update from the MailOnline website:
The Daily Mail:
TSA agent arrested over 'rape of young boy' he was mentoring through Big Brothers Big Sisters program

PUBLISHED: 18:14 EST, 1 November 2012
UPDATED: 18:24 EST, 1 November 2012


A short quote:
Paul Magnuson, who recently worked as a transportation security inspector for the TSA and was returning to America after working on a job in Frankfurt, Germany, was arrested in the international airport in Newark, New Jersey.

and
MailOnline spoke with TSA spokesman David Castleveter who said that Magnuson was fired as a result of the arrest.

‘TSA is aware of the allegations against the former Cleveland-based employee and continues to cooperate with investigative authorities,’ Castleveter said.

‘TSA holds its employees to the highest ethical standards and expects all employees to conduct themselves with integrity and professionalism and takes appropriate action when allegations are substantiated.’

RadioGirl Nov 1, 2012 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 19604543)
Cue the TSA rubber stamp...... :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by RatherBeOnATrain (Post 19608010)
An update from the MailOnline website:
MailOnline spoke with TSA spokesman David Castleveter who said that Magnuson was fired as a result of the arrest.

‘TSA holds its employees to the highest ethical standards and expects all employees to conduct themselves with integrity and professionalism and takes appropriate action when allegations are substantiated.’

Wow, goalie, it's like you're psychic or something. ;)

chollie Nov 1, 2012 6:52 pm

OK, now I'm confused.

One of our (reliable) resident TSOs has mentioned in recent posts the extreme difficulties in firing TSA employees for misconduct.

So isn't it a bit disingenuous for a TSA spokesman to say that Magnuson was 'fired' when IIRC, Magnuson has 7 days to appeal the firing and longer if the union comes to back him up (TSA's new excuse for not being able to fire anyone - the union won't allow it). So he can't possibly have been really fired - maybe the process has been initiated, maybe he will be given an opportunity to 'resign'.

It also brings up another question: does TSA fire someone (Magnuson) based solely on suspicion of wrong-doing? Magnuson has been arrested, but he has not yet had his day in court. We have no way of knowing at this time whether or not he will be found guilty. If he is found innocent, will TSA then reinstate him with back pay? Will he be able to sue TSA for firing him and collect $$$ of taxpayers' money in settlement?

jkhuggins Nov 1, 2012 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 19608156)
So isn't it a bit disingenuous for a TSA spokesman to say that Magnuson was 'fired' when IIRC, Magnuson has 7 days to appeal the firing and longer if the union comes to back him up (TSA's new excuse for not being able to fire anyone - the union won't allow it). So he can't possibly have been really fired - maybe the process has been initiated, maybe he will be given an opportunity to 'resign'.

Note that the quote was an indirect quote from the article: the writer said that the TSA spokesman said that Magnuson was 'fired'. I suspect (but have no evidence to prove) that the spokesman made the usual indirect allusion ('Magnuson is no longer working for TSA' or 'Magnuson has been relieved of duty') and the writer jumped to the obvious --- if technically incorrect --- conclusion.

N830MH Nov 1, 2012 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 19604209)
Don't forget - TSA employees deserve the same presumption of innocence that they afford the traveling public. @:-)

Yup, you got that right, Spiff! I agree as well. He's too crazy! He did not have background check. He never did. He was supposed to do the fingerprinted.

goalie Nov 2, 2012 11:28 am


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 19608046)
Wow, goalie, it's like you're psychic or something. ;)

So why doesn't it work on lottery numbers ;)

China Clipper Nov 7, 2012 10:06 pm

For once, a story even more incendiary than its title
 

Originally Posted by chollie (Post 19604133)

Who better than this clown to show them how a 'proper' crotch grab should be performed on someone who is powerless to protest?

Wow, you hit that nail on the head.


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 19604246)

And I realize that one 'bad apple' is in no way representative of the millions of innocent pax who run the TSA gauntlet every day.

:D

janetdoe Nov 8, 2012 1:19 am


Originally Posted by RatherBeOnATrain (Post 19603784)
So, why is TSA sending their employees to Germany?

10. Australia stopped being a penile colony a while back. ;)
9. Don't have to register as sex offenders there.
8. Need to install backscatter machines in the holes in the Berlin Wall, out of an abundance of caution.
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Okay, I need some help here.

zitsky Nov 8, 2012 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 19606801)
Big brother ... anyone else see the irony here?

Hope they castrate the guy if found guilty. :td:

Give him a chance at a trial, but if he's guilty I say lock him up and throw away the key. :mad:

mahohmei Nov 8, 2012 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by zitsky (Post 19649110)
Give him a chance at a trial, but if he's guilty I say lock him up and throw away the key. :mad:

...in General Population.

tsadude1 Nov 9, 2012 3:03 am

Not that it makes any difference, but this scumbag was not a TSO. He was an inspector like this dolt http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?d...2-944325cea23d There are several things that you can be fired outright for. The appeal, if there is one, is on the checklist with turning in your uniforms. Also, these employees are not covered by the union.

Boggie Dog Nov 9, 2012 6:12 am


Originally Posted by tsadude1 (Post 19652409)
Not that it makes any difference, but this scumbag was not a TSO. He was an inspector like this dolt http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?d...2-944325cea23d There are several things that you can be fired outright for. The appeal, if there is one, is on the checklist with turning in your uniforms. Also, these employees are not covered by the union.

Was he TSA?


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