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Global_Hi_Flyer Oct 24, 2012 10:22 am

TSA fights major image problem...
 
Really? It's more than just "image"....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/....html?hpid=z10


“I believe it’s more a function of the fact that 1) the standards of conduct are both clearer and more stringent at TSA than at many other federal agencies, 2) TSA workers are more in the public eye than many other federal employees and 3) TSA has a more streamlined disciplinary process than most agencies,” John Palguta said by e-mail. “So when there are problems they are more easily identified and more quickly dealt with.” He is a Partnership for Public Service vice president who previously worked for the Merit Systems Protection Board and the Office of Personnel Management.
So, it's simply a matter of "the standards are higher for us, so it looks like we're bad" ???

goalie Oct 24, 2012 10:30 am


TSA has a more streamlined disciplinary process than most agencies,” John Palguta said by e-mail. “So when there are problems they are more easily identified and more quickly dealt with.
Huh? ;)

Darkumbra Oct 24, 2012 10:34 am

is today April 1st?

Global_Hi_Flyer Oct 24, 2012 10:37 am

Fortunately, most of the comments rip the TSA to shreds (excepting a couple of AFS types). Unfortunately, by posing this as an "image problem", those comments merely serve to support the thesis that it's an image problem and not a real problem.

Wally Bird Oct 24, 2012 1:39 pm


Acknowledging “it obviously hurts our image” during the interview, Pistole said one thing the cases have not done is endanger the flying public. The chances the improper baggage screening has compromised security “is so remote,” he said, given the nearly 1.8 million passengers and 3.4 million bags screened every day by about 50,000 TSAs.
Foot in mouth again, John?

What happened to "we have to be lucky every time"?

Superguy Oct 24, 2012 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 19556773)
Really? It's more than just "image"....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/....html?hpid=z10



So, it's simply a matter of "the standards are higher for us, so it looks like we're bad" ???

Reminds me of Kippie saying that they were actually doing well on the tests, but were often failing them because they were hard and meant to be failed. :rolleyes:

TheOneTheOnly Oct 24, 2012 2:22 pm


TSA has a more streamlined disciplinary process than most agencies,” John Palguta said by e-mail. “So when there are problems they are more easily identified and more quickly dealt with.
Yep, it's easily identified as a complaint, then quickly placed in the paper shredder.

jkhuggins Oct 24, 2012 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 19556899)
Unfortunately, by posing this as an "image problem", those comments merely serve to support the thesis that it's an image problem and not a real problem.

At some point, folks will realize that the two issues are independent of one another. You can have an image problem but not have a real problem. You can have a real problem but not have an image problem. Or, as in this case, you can have both.

TheGolfWidow Oct 24, 2012 4:09 pm

This is classic. Even the fact that the TSA looks like a bunch of buffoons is not their fault. It's our fault, it's because of the way we perceive them. :rolleyes:

RadioGirl Oct 24, 2012 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 19556845)

TSA has a more streamlined disciplinary process than most agencies,” John Palguta said by e-mail. “So when there are problems they are more easily identified and more quickly dealt with.
Huh? ;)


Originally Posted by TheOneTheOnly (Post 19558545)
Yep, it's easily identified as a complaint, then quickly placed in the paper shredder.

I can't tell you how I came by it, but this was leaked from TSA HQ:

Streamlined Disciplinary Process
1. It never happened.
2. We're investigating but we believe it never happened.
3. Okay, something happened but normal procedures were followed. And we're still trying to locate the video.

Note that the process usually ends here.

(If necessary) 4. We couldn't find the video but it was obviously the passenger's fault.
(If necessary) 5. Maybe the TS"O" did something that wasn't quite SOP but s/he's being retrained.

(Only if the media is still clamoring after a week and someone has actual video)
6. We're sorry if the passenger felt they were treated in an unprofessional manner.

For steps 4, 5, and 6, include the following:
"TSA holds its staff to the highest standards of professionalism and this incident (which didn't actually happen and the employee who did it is being retrained) in no way reflects upon the 84,000 other TSA employees who work 19 hour days at minimum wage in hazardous conditions out of the goodness of their hearts just to protect the uncaring American public from the imminent disasters that await them on every single flight blah blah blah."

:eek:
I wish I was making this up. Really.


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