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chollie Apr 7, 2012 11:50 am


Originally Posted by tkey75 (Post 18351164)
If she fails at what is probably the simplest of tasks - make sure everyone walks in this direction, not that direction - how can she be trusted for something more challenging?

Maybe it would help TSOs who perform this function to stay awake and on task if they were required to ask each exiting pax to say his/her name. :rolleyes:

As for Sen. Lautenberg and his concerns about sterile area exits, perhaps he has stock or financial interests in a company that can install glass boxes to isolate exiting pax until the monitoring TSO hits a release button. For our safety, of course. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised to see taxpayers funding over-priced one-person-wide exit lane restrictions in the future, to simplify the task of the monitoring TSO.

TheRoadie Apr 7, 2012 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 18346780)
Don't they have alarms that go off when people enter through the exit?

They exist, and probably cost less than one $screener-month$ to install . They aren't at all lanes at all airports probably because Chertoff doesn't lobby for those companies.

But the presence of the motion-enforcing sensors (SAN has some also) still has to be backstopped by a human security presence. Or is it the sensors backstop the human? Either way, if a SINGLE screener without motion sensors as backup can be so easily distracted, then that layer of security is as penetrable as cheesecloth and might as well not exist.

But shhhh, don't talk about it or else the bad guys might find out.


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 18351589)
I wouldn't be surprised to see taxpayers funding over-priced one-person-wide exit lane restrictions in the future, to simplify the task of the monitoring TSO.

Guarded by the ancient invention of the TURNSTILE!

tkey75 Apr 7, 2012 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 18351589)
Maybe it would help TSOs who perform this function to stay awake and on task if they were required to ask each exiting pax to say his/her name. :rolleyes:
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As is typical of govt job assignments, no particular skill set is matched to the person. It's just a title pulled out of a hat. Then money has to be spent to fix the problem. Let's not help them with any ideas.

barbell Apr 7, 2012 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 18351589)
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As for Sen. Lautenberg and his concerns about sterile area exits, perhaps he has stock or financial interests in a company that can install glass boxes to isolate exiting pax until the monitoring TSO hits a release button. For our safety, of course. :rolleyes:

I've seen such a device at SFO. I believe in Terminal 1 (?) there is a solitary TSA employee that stands there with a tensabarrier across the exit, similar to what makes up the queues leading to a ticket counter. When I've seen it in action, it will stand there until a group of people amasses, and then make a dramatic show of releasing people from the "sterile" :rolleyes: area to the outside, unsafe world full of potential terrorists. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 18351589)
I wouldn't be surprised to see taxpayers funding over-priced one-person-wide exit lane restrictions in the future, to simplify the task of the monitoring TSO.

And I've already seen worse here.

At MEM they appear to be reconfiguring the main checkpoint (leading into Terminal B, for those who care). They have put up a solid, floor-to-ceiling wall for an exit lane that is approximately 4-foot wide, probably enough for 2 people side-by-side to exit. There are generally 2 TSA employees standing on each end of this new hamster tunnel, for a total of 4, to control entrance and egress through the exit lane. It's effing insane.

reamworks Apr 7, 2012 11:08 pm

I'm sure she was just chit-chatting with another TSA employee, probably with a cup of hot, steaming coffee in her hand, ready to throw in the face of anyone who confronts her.

You wonder how many people walk past snoozing TSA workers each day and are not detected.

Caradoc Apr 7, 2012 11:15 pm


Originally Posted by barbell (Post 18352330)
There are generally 2 TSA employees standing on each end of this new hamster tunnel, for a total of 4, to control entrance and egress through the exit lane. It's effing insane.

It's not so insane when you think of it as a program to insure jobs for the otherwise unemployable.

It's no less stupid, though.

SomeGuy Apr 7, 2012 11:21 pm

I'm waiting for the day where we see a "Newark success thread."


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