They certainly like to toot their own horn.

Exit dragnets have gotten tighter and tighter over time and been extended and extended in scope and scale. Which shouldn’t be a surprise, as big and little Napoleons don’t gives up power voluntarily when not subject to pressure to do so; instead the nature of such types is to try to grab more and more power and extend their domain for fishing.

Of course they have to toot their own horn especially as vast majority of the general public don’t see the net effect of their success and only see the negative headlines and FT threads labeling them as racists based on a couple of data points.

And for the portion of the public that travels internationally….when the most positive outcome from a customer service experience is traveler being waived thru to the inspection area exit, CBP would need to get any public relations brownie points whenever they can.

The vast majority of people rarely see negative headlines about CBP and even far more rarely see FT posts properly recognizing that racism — and racist profiling is just that — is embedded in the CBP. And to make for “feel-good” sentiments within and beyond, they toot their own horn about easily sellable “baddies” in their grasp while not playing straight with what they do that could be considered more contentious. Tooting their own horn about advancing an ever more comprehensive fishing expedition system that monitors and judges overwhelmingly innocent Americans even when headed out of the country isn’t really as sellable to the public as “look at the good that comes from continuing to give us our wish lists and letting us do whatever we want and are already doing”.

It is as it ever was. And will be. :)

Here is the version from CBP directly.

I think it is telling that both cases involve people "wanted" for "rape charges" or "sex offenses," and in one case, the specter of illegal presence is raised (in reality, exit controls catch overstays-- people necessarily illegally present-- all the time).

I'm guessing these determinations are made long before the passengers even get to the airport, when APIS cycles through with the derogatory information. But who knows. You don't really want to pull someone off a jetway without having verified a warrant with the issuing jurisdiction, if you can avoid it-- my guess. Anyone have any insight? And what level of discretion is used?

You don't pass throught immigration in USA to leave the country, just when you enter the country. So, briefly you show your EU passport for the check-in, when you pass through security usually they only ask for your boarding pass and when you board your plane again you show your EU passport because they want to know that you're entitled to travel to Europe.
Then when you come back to USA, you show your US passport when you check in.at the airrport. Then when you pass immigration to leave the country (Europe like Mexico does has immigration for entering and leaving the country) you show your EU passport. After this point, to board your plane and when you arrive to USA you only need your US passport.

This is not correct. US Citizens must use their US passports to leave and enter the country. They may also need to show their foreign passports as per the requirements of that arriving country. This is per as Legal/Travel requirements of The State Department. Now in the US it is the airlines who have the responsibility of recording this when they scan the passport on check in and do the work of the departure immigration. That information goes to the US government.

It's a rule with very loose enforcement - specifically neither the passengers traveling, nor the airline check-in agents are particularly strict about it. Airline check-in agents can be more problematic with paperwork for the destination, so it's easier just to show the passport that gets you on the plane and not worry about these rules.

It is not the enforcement but the legality that is the issue. I am sure that the airline staff never would ask what nationalities do you have when you show the passport of another country. As far as I know it is a law that US citizens must leave and enter the USA on US passports.

There is no US requirement for that. There is no requirement that the passport on the reservation has to be the same as the passport you show to CBP during examination.

Already been discussed multiple times in various related threads....round and round we go.

Nowhere does US regulation require US passport must be on reservations.... The most it requires is US citizen present US passport to CBP during examination.

it does not say that it must be on the reservation.

This is what State Department website states.
By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and exit the United States.

So then a dual citizen just carry both passports with them when they travel out of/into US and show US passport when encountering to a CBP officer. Obligations are met.

Not sure why this is still a discussion 16 years/37 pages/546 posts (and counting) after after post# 1. :)

Yes -- and by law of Germany, for example, dual nationals must use their German passport to enter. So when going by y:rolleyes:ur "must be on the reservation" rule, when flying from the US to Germany, a dual citizen of both is breaking the law somewhere.

The truth is that it does not matter at all to CBP which passport is on your reservation. What matters is that when leaving the US you show your US passport to any CBP officials you might encounter. When arriving in (in this example) Germany you must show your German passport to the authorities. Many airlines (probably not all) refuse to transport passengers without proper electronic authorization or visa info in the PNR. So, when ETIAS is fully implemented, such a citizen will likely have to have their EU passport on the reservation when flying to the EU in order to check in.

Germans can also legally enter Germany with a Personalausweis - which is a national identity card. So a dual national going to Germany from the US could carry a US passport and a Personalausweis and be legal in both countries. The Personalausweis is about the size of a US driving license, and can be read by the automated border gates at German airports, and is a lot less bulky than carrying two passports.

I understand what you are saying and most of the time the CBP would not even ask about it but all the information from the check in does go to the to them every time someone leaves the US. If they want to create an issue then they could at a later stage. This is not about the airline reservation. When people normally have dual citizenship what is required when they check in what is on the reservation. But they also require to see your other passport if you are flying to your other country. This is for the entrance.

Every time someone flies out of the US that information goes to the CBP when the passenger checks in at the airline counter. The information on using a US passport to exit and enter the country could be found on the Department of State Citizens Information Services. It is up to the individual to do what they want to do. It still does not mean it is not the rule.