Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 26416851)
I'm not sure exit immigration would be constitutional for US citizens. And if you want to have it for just foreigners, that'd be a logistical nightmare.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26416920)
Exit checking and prevention of exiting the US aren't exactly one and the same, when it comes to free US citizens on the move. Unfortunately, more exit checks and even more exit controls would likely not be deemed unconstitutional by the Courts.
http://www.texasobserver.org/border-...l-checkpoints/ |
Ah yes, the old "Constitution-free 50-mile inland checks". I always enjoyed the Youtube videos of people giving Border Patrol a hard time. A dozen ways that BP tries to get citizens to stop and answer questions on their own accord.
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Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian
(Post 26414626)
Like the US, the UK does do exit passport checks on occasion. The US more at the flight gate, the UK has desks set up at some terminals (aka LHR) where they do actively do exit checks. I have had it happen 3 times in the last 18 months. Again, rare but it happens.
The desks at LHR T3 are rarely manned (happened to me in 8 or 9 years ago). It is more common for officers to stand at the gate and do checks - twice in past 2 years |
Originally Posted by :D!
(Post 26420898)
The UK used to do exit checks until the 1990s.
The desks at LHR T3 are rarely manned (happened to me in 8 or 9 years ago). It is more common for officers to stand at the gate and do checks - twice in past 2 years |
Originally Posted by :D!
(Post 26420898)
The UK used to do exit checks until the 1990s.
The desks at LHR T3 are rarely manned (happened to me in 8 or 9 years ago). It is more common for officers to stand at the gate and do checks - twice in past 2 years I've seen officers at the gates at T3, but that is rather rare to see for departing flights unless you are looking for it, your route network includes a flagged route, or someone else is flagged. A lot of what we see (and don't see) as passengers relates to the flight patterns of the passengers making the observations. I've seen both kinds of exit checks at LHR last year. I've not cared to try to have my flight records from T3 last year matched with my observations of exit checks from last year, but for me both kinds of checks still happen from time to time but are rare. What I've not seen on my flights is checks both at the gate and just after security screening at T3 when originating the trip at T3. But that has happened to some others. |
Originally Posted by catandmouse
(Post 26413526)
When leaving the Schengen area most times my passport is scanned but I've never had it stamped. They scan all the passports, but seem to stamp only non-Schengen passports (or maybe only passports with visas?)
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Passport control on exiting the U.S.?
We flew from IAD to LHR on Friday and went through what felt a lot like a formal passport control before entering security. The officers (two were working on our four passports) looked very carefully through every single page of our passports and seemed to do the same for other travellers. After that, they wrote numerical codes on the boarding passes.
On previous experiences, they just scanned the boarding passes, and maybe quickly mached them up with an ID to make sure the name was the same. Is the U.S. in the process of setting up passport controls on exit, similar to what is done when exiting the Schengen zone? |
Was this TSA? If so, they should not have been looking through your passport. A good reason not to use a passport when dealing with the clerks.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26422207)
A lot of what we see (and don't see) as passengers relates to the flight patterns of the passengers making the observations.
Originally Posted by Alex71
(Post 26429355)
We flew from IAD to LHR on Friday and went through what felt a lot like a formal passport control before entering security. The officers (two were working on our four passports) looked very carefully through every single page of our passports and seemed to do the same for other travellers. After that, they wrote numerical codes on the boarding passes.
On previous experiences, they just scanned the boarding passes, and maybe quickly mached them up with an ID to make sure the name was the same. Is the U.S. in the process of setting up passport controls on exit, similar to what is done when exiting the Schengen zone? |
Originally Posted by catocony
(Post 26432029)
Was this TSA? If so, they should not have been looking through your passport. A good reason not to use a passport when dealing with the clerks.
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It'd probably be good for people who transit the US - no more need for visas or clearing customs when not even staying in the US
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
(Post 26468026)
It'd probably be good for people who transit the US - no more need for visas or clearing customs when not even staying in the US
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26468090)
Pipe dream is what I would call a "no more need for visas" for all passengers transiting internationally via the US.
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Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 26393499)
I've entered and exited the Schengen Zone many times where my passport was never scanned let alone stamped -- last couple times in and out of FCO my passport was never even scanned at entry or exit immigration. When I try to hand them the passport at immigration, they just politely push it back and waive me through.
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