Fail.
 

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Sorry to ask - but what's NOS and WTMD?

For the next time, you can refuse to go through the scanners. If they require a pat-down, insist on someone of the same sex. You can even insist on a private room, (though I would prefer to be touched in a place where their actions would be scrutinized by other passengers). Don't let them bully you into anything. I have to fight with them every time I fly to have my film checked. If they get cranky, just insist louder. I always go through the scanners, but when whisked in the past, TSA has never crossed any lines even remotely, and it was always done by someone of the same sex who explained everything carefully.

It's a far more respective system than a lot of the South Asian security lines, in which you are whisked far away from your belongings into the female-only groping and wanding tent, where they play with your hair and ask all sorts of relevant terrorist questions such as 'You are skinny, are you an athlete?', or 'When is your birthday? I see.. do you have children yet?', or ask you to explain your choice of jewelry. The standards for what is 'ok' in that room are so off the charts different that just remembering my experiences there makes my eyes open wider and jaw drop open in speechlessness...

NOS = Nude-o-Scope
WTMD = Walk Through Metal Detector

Sorry I have a hard time understanding your pain. Although I may not like the inconvenience of TSA protocols, I find it works much better to smile, cooperate and say as little as possible. The less visible you are the easier you get through.

In keeping with the ToS and forum rules I redact anything I would say other then: I hope you have a good Shepard watching over you...

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This is nowhere near any of my experiences in a large number of airports in south Asia over the years.

And certainly I would never tell anyone that TSA is a better experience than 'rest of world'.

'Shut up and take it'? :rolleyes:

This is good advice if your goal is to get by without aggravation or delay. It actually works pretty good.

However, for some of us there are things related to airport security that are not resolved by the submissive approach. You can find that discussion on the other side of the wall. Use the door labeled "Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate."

OMG:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Men or Mice?
 

Does cowardice equip a man for flight from battle, or does it give him argument why his flight is not actually flight but wisdom?

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality." ~Bishop Desmond Tutu

Just out of interest, could you give a specific example? I've never witnessed nor experienced anything like this anywhere in South Asia. I've been pulled out of a line myself for extra attention, but it was a very quick and respectful check in full public view. Certainly no questions such as the ones that you mentioned. No doubt there are private rooms where checks can be carried out, but I've never seen anyone taken off to one.

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Big John, you got it right.

Many people here are concerned with social justice and not just self-preservation. I would have been killed quite early in many oppressive regiemes -- they look first for the thinking people that are not "malleable" and "going with the flow," and for good reason. The millions of North Koreans crying at their leaders' death were not highly educated, enlightened citizens.

Your post suggests that you want to just go with the flow, which is often an unthinking strategy for somebody who has not examined an issue. (but not necessarily in this case, if you would like to further elaborate on this point.)

Not insulting you personally, but the ideas you set forth are quite abhorrent to people that are concerned for others and their rights.

You evidently can say stuff like "his post shows he has no idea of the extent of TSA abuses."

Yeah. :p