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NotaCriminal Nov 23, 2011 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by JoeBas (Post 17503724)
Weather Channel Reporter outside ATL, moments ago - "Airport officials telling us this is one the lightest day-before-thanksgiving crowds they've seen in recent memory". Full parking lot availability in hubs like DFW. What gives?

We bought an RV in December of last year after my spouse declared he wouldn't fly again. We use it for our holiday travel now, rather than flying. The gas costs are comparable to two airline tickets, and we can take our dogs, which in turn saves money in house/dog sitter costs.

Like last year, I offered to buy my dad and his partner a ticket to spend T-day with us, since there were still plenty of seats available at reasonable fares. Again, he declined. They'll be driving over to watch the Mars rover launch instead. No scans, no groups, no stress.

mahohmei Nov 23, 2011 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by JoeBas (Post 17503724)
Weather Channel Reporter outside ATL, moments ago - "Airport officials telling us this is one the lightest day-before-thanksgiving crowds they've seen in recent memory". Full parking lot availability in hubs like DFW. What gives?

Attention mainstream media: please take this story and run with it. They love doing articles about the Thanksgiving tradition of spending multiple nights in airports going nowhere, and if they could go to a terminal on this super-busy travel day to the sound of crickets chirping, perhaps that would say something about the TSA.

mikeef Nov 23, 2011 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 17503913)
Those with jobs can not afford to take off.

Those without jobs can not afford to travel.

Everyone else... wait, there is no one else. Carry on.

As much fun as TSA bashing is, I have to believe that this is the answer.

Or people finally got wise and figured out how much of a pain in the tuchus it is to travel the day before Thanksgiving.

Mike

CelticPax Nov 23, 2011 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by 16A (Post 17504538)
Just finished up a 685 mile drive - lots of traffic on interstates that are normally deserted. Weather wasn't great but other than that the drive was good.

Picked up someone at CRW last night - coincidentally the same time that the screeners came off shift. I counted 14 TSA employees in one shift for an airport that might handle 750 passengers a day. :mad::mad::mad:

I drove 550 miles / 9 hours (one way) to New York for an extended weekend. But coming back yesterday (Tuesday before Thanksgiving), the traffic was much heavier, it took me about 11 hours on the road.

I was also floored at how little traffic there was at Newark airport.

I hate that I'm now at an age where I could afford and do weekend air trips, but I can't now.

average_passenger Nov 23, 2011 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by CelticPax (Post 17505214)

I hate that I'm now at an age where I could afford and do weekend air trips, but I can't now.

I'm in the same situation. Well, the TSA is saving us money!! :)

Last year, the Weds. before Thanksgiving, I was at large US airport (flying domestic) at a normally peak travel time. No one was on the shuttle bus. There were 5 people in the ENTIRE security screening area. They made EVERYONE, even the 2 elementary school aged boys, go through the scanner. I hope the person in the viewing booth enjoyed their new job...

RosemaryT Nov 23, 2011 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by Maxwell Smart (Post 17504557)
NINE cars? Wow. I don't think the platform is anywhere close to that long, boarding must have been interesting!

I think it's normally only 5-6 cars.

Yes, I was very surprised to see nine passenger cars. It was a long train - for Amtrak.

OldGoat Nov 23, 2011 2:07 pm

This weekend we're auto-training to Florida. The roads will be crowded, and the airports full of TSA. So we'll sit back, eat well, watch a movie, lie flat (sleeper car), and arrive rested, not-radiated, not-groped, and with all our stuff -- an entire carload of stuff.

TSA has changed the value equation. Now Amtrak is the better value.

WindOfFreedom Nov 23, 2011 2:50 pm

"TSA has changed the value equation. Now Amtrak is the better value."

Right on the mark.

svenskaflicka Nov 23, 2011 3:19 pm

Boston (Logan) was nearly empty this morning. The local news here showed no lines for security at 6:30AM. Usually security is nuts at that time. They showed the screeners all standing around just swinging their arms waiting for people to show up.

Love it!

doober Nov 23, 2011 3:24 pm

According to the 5 p.m. news in NYC, LGA is a "ghost town."

candi Nov 23, 2011 5:55 pm

Good. I hope people stop flying. TSA will only be curtailed when airlines whine about revenue loss.

Complaints and letter writing are useless because TSA bureaucrats and related tech industry make too much money and Obama needs his only effective jobs program.

onlyairfare Nov 23, 2011 6:27 pm

Today the early morning TV news was that PHX was jammed and travelers needed to arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before departure time. However, the accompanying video showed empty security lines. Tonight's broadcasts had stories about heavy highway traffic, but nothing about Sky Harbor.

As for cost being the only explanation, many of us have either the money or the miles we could use if we chose. I bought my 3 kids airfare to visit grandma for Thanksgiving (they are young and more patient than I, and one is even an "anything for security" nut, how embarrassing for me) but I'm staying home, as I refuse to deal with the airport foolishness.

mersk862 Nov 23, 2011 7:04 pm

MIA was a ghost town this morning. Was sitting in the SkyClub 10 minutes after getting off my shuttle.

Best part was the MMW machine had to get re-calibrated, so it was WTMD for all of us this morning! No lines, no gropes, no radiation - only thing that would make it better would be get PreCheck up and running and no War on Water.

jfunk138 Nov 23, 2011 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by mahohmei (Post 17504962)
if they could go to a terminal on this super-busy travel day to the sound of crickets chirping, perhaps that would say something about the TSA.

Why would they blame their friend the TSA when they can easily blame "in this economy"?

RosemaryT Nov 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Amazing...
 
I just returned from picking up my husband at the Amtrak station in Newport News, Virginia. I have never seen anything like it. The parking lot was full, the side lots were jammed, and even the road leading to the train was packed with not a spare place to park.

I parked NEXT DOOR at a health clinic and texted the hubby and told him where to find me.

He said the train was 100% full, and there were several people who had to stand in the train cars, due to lack of seating. Today, there were eight LONG passenger cars on his trek from New York to Newport News.

Amtrak is busy, busy, busy.


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