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I got the random check after going through WTMD 2 out of my last 3 trips. Firist time they swabbed my shoes and second time my laptop
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 17126417)
Well, had you used any hand lotion you would likely received a TSA grope down.
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 17127367)
How often have you been tested shortly after being to the range?
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17137384)
Ron is correct. One of the BAO's I have worked with who started at TSA around 2007 or 8 (cant remember now), has told me he would always alarm for explosives when he traveled and if tested - up to a week after handling whatever he did handle. This was before he worked for TSA and was still in the military.
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 17137421)
What does this BAO say about alarming after using "normal" firearms?
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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 17127136)
I am an avid shooter and have never experienced a problem with the ETD's alarming because of it. I suspect that as long as one is not handling military grade large caliber ammo that there wouldn’t be any.
SL powder is SL powder the formulas and composition are just about the same even in the military rounds. I have gone from the range to the plane and never had it pick up the powder residue, and I've shot plenty of SS109, M855, XM1022, M33 and it not pick up, yet it will false positive on my aftershave and skin lotion due to glycol and glycrin contents. Yet another SNAFU in reguards to TSA and testing for "WEI" |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17137527)
Understand that ETDs do NOT alarm at a drop of a hat. It takes a bit of a punch to get an alarm.
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17137527)
It is possible to alarm with "normal" firearms, but it is sort of uncommon. As example, because of its location SAT processes sometimes hundreds of guns a day during specific seasons and/or gun shows. Almost no alarms, and many of those alarms other than for the firearm/ammunition. Understand that ETDs do NOT alarm at a drop of a hat. It takes a bit of a punch to get an alarm.
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 17137575)
But they do alarm on glycerine?
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Originally Posted by realjd
(Post 17140493)
I'll use a range bag as a backup travel bag on occasion (after a thorough search to make sure it's completely empty!). I'm sure it's full of residue. I've never had it alarm the ETD machine when they swab it.
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17137367)
That is simply not true.
If there is an alarm a grope down is likely. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17140604)
The CAN alarm on glycerine, as that is used in some explosives. CAN alarm is not the same as WILL.
Oh goody, I just love playing russian roulette. Puts the adventure back in flying, don't it? |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 17140614)
Oh, the ETD will detect it, but as to whether or not it will alarm is another matter.
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The ETD can (and in many cases will) alarm on the shoes of someone that just walked across a newly fertilized lawn.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 17140759)
Your response is just more TSA bs. Etd does alarm on components in handcreams.
If there is an alarm a grope down is likely. As example that what you have said is not true, I have ETD test the hands of many/most passengers on an x-ray lane, easily testing over 50 passengers each time, often without alarms. How many of those people have used lotions, shook hands with people that have used lotions, and so on? More than likely a good deal of them. Oh, the ETD has registered specific chemicals, but as I have stated, usually I have not received an alarm. And I NEVER said ETD does not alarm on "components in handcreams". Your answers to the OP are misleading, inaccurate, and show how little you know about how ETDs work. |
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