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It also depends on the country of your passport. Passports from "first world" countries don't get hassled. Also, remember, that local police in many places in Europe have the authority to stop and ask you for your papers. If not everything is in order you might have problems.
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While I agree there is little risk from a security perspective, the lax approach to entering the Schengen Area in some countries such as Italy have caused countries such as Denmark to be a bit more protective of their borders. Here is a BBC article, one of many on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Sjoerd
(Post 16713379)
I am glad that some immigration officers still use common sense and know that 99.99999% of travellers pose no risk and should be welcomed with open arms. You probably have a passport from a relatively rich country whose citizens are not often engaging in terrorist or other illegal activities abroad.
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Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 16713770)
While I agree there is little risk from a security perspective, the lax approach to entering the Schengen Area in some countries such as Italy have caused countries such as Denmark to be a bit more protective of their borders. Here is a BBC article, one of many on the subject.
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Originally Posted by yyzvoyageur
(Post 16713801)
It would still be prudent to check that the person standing there is the person for whom the passport was issued.
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Originally Posted by Sjoerd
(Post 16713819)
Normally this has already been done at least once, and in many cases several times, by airline staff, airport officials and/or immigration officers in the country of departure.
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 16713590)
I think you worry too much. Way too much.
It might be an immigration issue, but it has nothing at all to do with security. *= I am not complaining about the procedures, which is normal. Most of the officers I have met are respectful and the entire ordeal takes less than five minutes.
Originally Posted by Palal
(Post 16713714)
It also depends on the country of your passport. Passports from "first world" countries don't get hassled. Also, remember, that local police in many places in Europe have the authority to stop and ask you for your papers. If not everything is in order you might have problems.
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Originally Posted by CX HK
(Post 16713924)
I was using a Hong Kong passport; not sure what standing it has with European officers, but hopefully a good one. Unfortunately, it is not good enough for the US yet
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Originally Posted by VelvetJones
(Post 16713574)
CDG was more ridged, they actually looked through my passport and asked me what I was doing there.
In the past, I've actually had to go hunting for immigration officers at CDG after jumpseating in on a Daallo Airlines flight from London to Djibouti (that made a stop to pick up passengers in Paris) when they didn't expect any arriving passengers. The doors to France were literally left open to stroll through! |
Originally Posted by B747-437B
(Post 16714032)
The doors to France were literally left open to stroll through!
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Really, this is the way it ought to be. Terrorism is not a threat - really, it's not. You are far more likely to die in a traffic accident. Airport security should be kept to an absolute minimum, customs between friendly countries should be only a formality.
As other posters have pointed out, most illegal immigrants attempt to sneak in via surface transport - at the moment, thousands of people are coming by sea from Tunisia, Egypt and Libya. |
Originally Posted by a_random_guy
(Post 16714095)
Really, this is the way it ought to be. Terrorism is not a threat - really, it's not. You are far more likely to die in a traffic accident. Airport security should be kept to an absolute minimum, customs between friendly countries should be only a formality.
As other posters have pointed out, most illegal immigrants attempt to sneak in via surface transport - at the moment, thousands of people are coming by sea from Tunisia, Egypt and Libya. |
Originally Posted by CX HK
(Post 16712748)
The last time I visited a Schengen country was in 2009, when I arrived in Geneva in Switzerland for a vacation (one of the most beautiful countries, by the way). I hold a non-EU passport, and the immigration officer asked me a few questions before stamping my passport and waving me through.
Now, Schengen by itself is full of loopholes. You can take a plane from London to Gibraltar, land and walk into Spain looking like a tourist who is coming back from a day in the rock, and chances are you will not be asked for any type of document. But hell, you can also take a boat from Africa and land in Italy (or Greece) and you are in… It’s like crossing the river from Mexico to the US… There is always a way to come in, and believe me most of the time its nor through airports, since you need documents at the point of origin to board. Every country will be more careful with different “possible” immigrants. For example, now in Spain, if you hold a Latin American passport, they will reinforce the rule that you need a return ticket, proof of economic solvency, a hotel reservation, and if they are not satisfied, they could deny your entry, but its because there is always a percentage of “tourists” that turn into illegal immigrants, and if they speak Spanish and come from a less developed country, they are more likely to be… Entering Spain with a US passport, is a piece of cake, no need to show anything, if an American wanted to become an illegal immigrant, it would be more likely to attempt the UK, and not Spain, so they are more relaxed… It’s a matter of what they are after. If they are after illegal immigration of if they are after terrorism, ad not all countries feel the heat of terrorism, so they are more concerned with illegal immigration. Now, if you are a Latin American with the intention of staying in Spain, the best way around it is flying to Madrid via Paris. That way you will face French immigration agents that as soon as they see you are leaving France (ticket to Madrid) they stamp and let you through, Its not their problem, it’s the Spaniards problem… Of course, if you come from a French speaking African country, you will better have a return ticket, money and credit cards, a hotel reservation and look clean and affluent… |
Originally Posted by Cometintintin
(Post 16715090)
Switzerland is not a Schengen country.
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Originally Posted by Cometintintin
(Post 16715090)
Now, if you are a Latin American with the intention of staying in Spain, the best way around it is flying to Madrid via Paris. That way you will face French immigration agents that as soon as they see you are leaving France (ticket to Madrid) they stamp and let you through, Its not their problem, it’s the Spaniards problem…
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