And we shouldn't have to conform to dim-bulb definitions of "ordinary" in order to board a commercial aircraft.

You'll find that many of the complaints here precisely focus on that issue. Having a physical disability isn't "ordinary". Having an objection to a pat-down because of past sexual abuse isn't "ordinary". Carrying Arabic language materials isn't "ordinary". None of these things should be cause for hassles at a checkpoint ... and yet they have been.

Then what's the point of checking it twice (or three times)? Isn't that wasting good taxpayer money to pay someone to sit and check IDs when they've already done so? (And when it's trivially easy to circumvent such a check?)

Then you're quite fortunate. Others here have not been so fortunate.

Our newest TSA apologist won't address either point - to identify just who is advocating no security, and the TSA would have prevented 9/11 lie.

The TSA hasn't used wands since November 2011.

No military member has every fought so that law abiding U.S. citizens could be groped and irradiated at the airport. There have been many veterans that have posted such in this forum. Do a search.

I know I definitely did not serve 15 years so that innocent citizens, as well as family and friends could get assaulted and have their rights violated by sick people working for our government. If I had known this would be the result of my service, I would not have served, in fact, I would have left the US for some other country for me and my family.

Concur. On all counts. Groped pretty regularly at IAD.

If not a government employee, certainly one who believes that no one can be right except the government. Just like those who hope that we turn into the Eastern Europe prior to the fall of the Wall. Or like those that make a few bucks by peddling their snake oil opinions on TV.

Most people who truly understand security know that the TSA is nonsense. TSA puts on a show for 3 reasons: 1) control the population and get them used to submitting, 2) an inability to provide real security so they have to use the physical equivalent of propaganda, and 3) for administrative convenience. That there has not been a repeat of 9/11 is NOT because of TSA....

This.

In fact, if the US Government continues to usurp our rights, I may leave. There's a small microstate in Europe that I can relocate to relatively easily, with my family.

Who said we need no security? We just don't need the kind that strip searches our families and feels over their groins, butts, and breasts. There is a fundamental guarantee in law that our persons ARE secure from governmental incursions in these areas unless there is probable cause.

There are so many alternatives, one of which is simply having someone, not the TSA, as they have proved themselves unchangeably incompetent, someone trained to look at the passenger manifests in advance and determine risks. You can safely discount nearly everyone, run 'em through the old way, WTMD, and for the small percentage of questionables, use passive millimeter wave as well, perhaps some questioning.

You seem to want no risk. No risk is possible only with the high degree of invasiveness that we have now, and worse, such as the securepass machines which scans cavity areas and more with greater x-ray dosage, which will be resorted to if we continue down this stupid choice.

Out of all the alternatives, the nitwits at TSA have chosen one that is highly offensive to persons, goes against the heart of the person's security guaranteed by the 4th Amendment, is stupidly applied, and in the final analysis, is still full of holes, as evidenced by the ease with which Red Teams sneak things by AIT. If you're going to have holes, that is, risk, why not have it in ways that DON'T violate the passengers and our laws?

We've become fixated on designing a zero-risk aviation environment, which is as ridiculous as trying to achieve a zero-risk motoring or medical or eating/nutrition environment. We accept reasonable risk in every other dimension of modern life -- buses crash, natural gas lines blow up, e.coli-tainted sprouts and spinach kill people -- without going nuts. Only when it comes to flying do we go demonstrably insane, and pursue extremes that lead to a thug in blue rubber gloves fondling our daughters. These extremes are all the more tragic for their pointlessness. The next al Qaeda bomb will no doubt slide through a checkpoint undetected while horny or larcenous TSOs are ogling some girl in a Nude-o-Scope or stealing her iPad. (I'd hate to think it would take such a catastrophe to blow up the TSA.) Not only is zero risk an absurd goal, but the buffoon platoon Uncle Sam has assigned to achieve it has less chance than the Three Stooges trying to launch the space shuttle.

If this country cannot be yanked back to rationality, the emigrate-to-Australia books on our nightstand at home are starting to look less like entertainment, more like instructional manuals.

^^ Excellent summary. The government created TSA in a time of panic to serve as a defense against being charged that they are "soft on terrorism" in the event of future attacks. Real security professionals know that it is simply impossible to prevent a dedicated terrorist for launching a successful attack. TSA's Kabuki Theater is a sham process created for the benefit of a gullible public and cowardly leaders who don't have the guts to tell the public the truth about safety and security.

A TSA commercial boycott
 

This was mentioned in another thread, but this is the first time that I recall a media outlet writing a pro-tsa piece. (Not counting the times they air puff stories)

(http://www.wbaltv.com/r/28476829/detail.html)

WBAL is owned by Hearst Television. Since Congress won't do anything about the TSA, a boycott of WBAL, Hearst TV, and all of their advertisers should be done.

Media outlets and their advertisers have better lobbyist then we do.

Thoughts?

You think TSA PAID him to do this piece of crap editorial?
Or his he just stupid?

Doesn't matter. A commercial media outlet wrote a pro-tsa editorial. Hit them where it hurts. Their pocket book.

^^^
Agree with this and mr. high flyer. think about the cost of this theatre and similar domestic games played by DHS (the recent ridiculous exercise over 3 states near Ohio, Kentucky...). It simply won't continue much longer. Take a look at this US government revenue vs expenditures graph. This tells you all you need to know about the future of useless and expensive charades like the TSA.

The TSA will be at the bottom of the list for expenditure cuts. :(