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FriendlySkies Mar 15, 2011 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by Tanic (Post 16041982)
What does Air Namibia have to do with this?

:confused:

PhlyingRPh Mar 15, 2011 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16042303)
:confused:

I imagine SW is the IATA code for Air Namibia. I abbreviated Southwest Airlines to SW in the original post instead of using the IATA code WN, so Tanic decided to make a funny :)

GUWonder Mar 15, 2011 10:20 pm

When paranoid ignoramuses get their way, incidents as noted in the OP end up happening.

"Just say no to paranoid ignoramuses."

N830MH Mar 15, 2011 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by Cartoon Peril (Post 16041833)

I'm sorry that I don't see the pictures and can you please do correctly right website.


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16041874)
And if a white passenger had said the same phrase, would we be in the same situation? :rolleyes:


:td: to the FA

Yes, always big problems with muslins for most the times and she isn't allowed on the flight. What is reason why she was complaints against WN. She didn't have any suspicious behaviors and she was unable to get on the flight. She will have to take on trains from SAN-SJC. She have absolutely no reason why she got removed off the plane.

SQ421 Mar 16, 2011 12:24 am

So all it takes for the good citizenry of the land of the free and brave (fast turning into the land of the fearful and paranoid) to start quaking in their boots is to have someone with darker skin, and wearing a scarf, to say the phrase "it's a go".

Sheesh.

Here's hoping Southwest is made to pay through the nose; and more.

srirams Mar 16, 2011 12:34 am

This, and the incident a couple of days ago with the Jewish prayer.... Anything different seems to set off alarm bells :( It's not like the terrorists try to blend in or anything :rolleyes:

N965VJ Mar 16, 2011 1:08 am

Incidents like this are something that Kate Hanni over at FlyersRights.org should be talking about. @:-)

PhlyingRPh Mar 16, 2011 1:23 am


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 16043126)
Incidents like this are something that Kate Hanni over at FlyersRights.org should be talking about. @:-)

She won't cover this, at least not honestly. Her views on security are at best borderline racist. She wants Muslims and other brown skinned people to receive additional scrutiny by the TSA. Unless she clarifies her position on this, I consider her to be an enemy of freedom - my freedom and that of my children.

essxjay Mar 16, 2011 3:00 am


Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh (Post 16043156)
She won't cover this, at least not honestly. Her views on security are at best borderline racist.

+1.

She is not our ally on this or any number of other issues near/dear to TSSers.

Cholula Mar 16, 2011 7:06 am

Folks, a friendly warning to keep this thread strictly on the travel safety/security aspects of the story.

If it drifts into a discussion on politics or religion we're going to shift it to OMNI/PR.

Thanks for your cooperation.

______________________

Cholula
TS/S Co-Moderator

flapping arms Mar 16, 2011 7:19 am

Between this incident on SWA and the three Orthodox Jews on ASA treated as security threats for putting on tefillin, the Muslim and the Jewish communities should make common cause against air travel paranoia.

It gets ironic when the Muslims and Jews have a joint interest that outweighs the generally perceived hostility between the two faiths.

(I use "generally perceived" to emphasize that Islam and Judaism are not automatically antagonistic to each other.)

ElizabethConley Mar 16, 2011 7:30 am


Originally Posted by Pluma (Post 16041699)
See something, say something, do something.
How quickly crap like this goes terrible wrong.

If anyone is in favor of this ridiculously thought out program
probably bought into the government's homemade fallout
shelter.


The first thing any well brought up child learns is "See something? -> Keep your lips zipped!"

By the age of six everybody know that Grannie Daffie is wearing her foundation garment over her blouse, Paster Snortsabit has had a nip of gin, Ms Mutton should stop dressing as lamb and Uncle Chester's jokes are unrepeatable, but yapping about these matters is counter-productive.

Everything that is seen does not need to be heard.

GUWonder Mar 16, 2011 12:28 pm

Paranoid ignoramuses on planes and at airports might even have something to learn from the proverbial Asian-origin story of the wise monkeys who "saw no evil, heard no evil, said no evil" and, according to some, "did no evil".

The paranoid ignoramuses also have a lesson to learn from Hamlet:

"for there is nothing
either good or bad,
but thinking makes it so:
to me it is a prison."

Their xenophobia imprisons one and all, whether the paranoid ignoramuses or others recognize it or not.

PhlyingRPh Mar 16, 2011 8:15 pm

Update
 
So WN issues a faux apology and throws a few bucks worth of travel vouchers at the customer. Hopefully the student in question decides to do the right thing and sue WN, force the FA and captain of the ship to be publicly named and obtain an extremely large settlement.

More here

FriendlySkies Mar 16, 2011 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh (Post 16048939)
So WN issues a faux apology and throws a few bucks worth of travel vouchers at the customer. Hopefully the student in question decides to do the right thing and sue WN, force the FA and captain of the ship to be publicly named and obtain an extremely large settlement.

More here


"We accommodated her on the next flight to San Jose, and we issued her a travel voucher as a gesture of goodwill for her inconvenience,'
:rolleyes:


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