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Yoshi212 Jul 19, 2012 7:43 am

I feel so much safer.

I used to play with these types of eggs when I was a kid. They were our reward for behaving during social events.

Gamecock Jul 19, 2012 8:03 am

I will sleep so much better knowing we are safe from Kinder eggs.

You want to go where? Jul 19, 2012 8:16 am

I am of two minds on this one.

1) This regulation has been around for a long time and has been enforced for a long time. This shouldn't be a story. Also, the regulation which CBP is enforcing isn't theirs, it comes from elsewhere in the government.

2) The regulation is overprotective. Neither Europe nor Canada have a problem with these eggs. Why should we?

fairviewroad Jul 19, 2012 10:35 am

The ironic thing is, you can go into ethnic grocery stores near where I live (and I expect in Seattle, too) and buy either Kinder eggs or cheaper knock-offs. So no real need to "smuggle" them.

FlyingHoustonian Jul 19, 2012 11:31 am


Originally Posted by fairviewroad (Post 18962191)
The ironic thing is, you can go into ethnic grocery stores near where I live (and I expect in Seattle, too) and buy either Kinder eggs or cheaper knock-offs. So no real need to "smuggle" them.

I can (or could as of a few months ago) buy them at several BXs on AFBs around the US.

The rule is absurd. It means CBP is spending too much time looking for eggs when they could be opening up more entry lines or looking for real contraban.

As noted, Europeans and Canadians are not dropping dead from them. By CBPs logic, coins, legos, buttons and basically anything else smaller than a half dollar should be banned since children could choke (and I say this with two small kids, I know parents must by vigilant)

tev9999 Jul 19, 2012 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian (Post 18962602)

The rule is absurd. It means CBP is spending too much time looking for eggs when they could be opening up more entry lines or looking for real contraban.

IMO this is an excuse to look for more contraband. I go to Canada a couple times a year to stock up on liquor. I always declare it at the booth, and usually get sent to secondary to pay duty. At secondary you are instructed to leave everything in your car except your wallet, including leaving keys and cell phones. While not officially detained, you are made to wait an exceptionally long time for something that should be very easy to determine duty on. There will also be a CBP officer standing by the door in case you try to leave. While I am inside, I can see the liftgate on my SUV open and close a couple times (assuming they were running a dog through). Last time my friend that was with me was called up while waiting to check his left arm for a tattoo.

A kinder egg or bottle of Canadian Club is just an excuse to rummage through your car and run your passport against criminal databases.

König Jul 19, 2012 12:26 pm

I think people here are too quick to blame CBP for a rule that was enacted by the legislature and has existed for a very long time. As for searching a car, they do not need any specific reason, especially Kinder surprise - they can do without any excuse.

rwoman Jul 19, 2012 2:10 pm

Related thread from 2011:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/pract...late-eggs.html

:)

der_saeufer Jul 19, 2012 2:42 pm

Can someone cite the actual statute or regulation being enforced here?

All I can find about food with inedible, non-functional ingredients refers to sale in the United States and wouldn't apply to personal-use imports. In a similar fashion, you're allowed to import booze without the Surgeon General's warning and food without English labelling but it'd be illegal to sell it.

I understand it's not CBP's rule, but it *is* CBP's choice to start enforcing it now. I saw thousands and thousands of Kinder eggs when I worked for CBP and knew full well that their sale was banned in the US, but we took no action against personal-use imports in baggage.

rwoman Jul 20, 2012 1:15 am


Originally Posted by der_saeufer (Post 18963824)
Can someone cite the actual statute or regulation being enforced here?

All I can find about food with inedible, non-functional ingredients refers to sale in the United States and wouldn't apply to personal-use imports. In a similar fashion, you're allowed to import booze without the Surgeon General's warning and food without English labelling but it'd be illegal to sell it.

I understand it's not CBP's rule, but it *is* CBP's choice to start enforcing it now. I saw thousands and thousands of Kinder eggs when I worked for CBP and knew full well that their sale was banned in the US, but we took no action against personal-use imports in baggage.

It's not CBP, it's the FDA:

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia...alert_107.html


*** Import Alert 34-02 was created as the Agency was made aware of a product called "Kinder Surprise Eggs", and similar articles containing imbedded, non-nutritive objects, being offered for sale in the United States. The imbedded non-nutritive objects in these confectionary products may pose a public health risk as the consumer may unknowingly choke on the object. ***

Wally Bird Jul 20, 2012 8:09 am


The imbedded non-nutritive objects in these confectionary products may pose a public health risk as the consumer may unknowingly choke on the object.
I think if one is choking one is probably aware of the fact.

Is there a 'detention center' per se at the border ? I've been selected for secondary several times and because of the general fustercluck it can take up to 2 hours. I doubt they were banged up in a cell, but yeah you can't leave until The Man says so.

You want to go where? Jul 20, 2012 9:36 am


Originally Posted by der_saeufer (Post 18963824)
I understand it's not CBP's rule, but it *is* CBP's choice to start enforcing it now. I saw thousands and thousands of Kinder eggs when I worked for CBP and knew full well that their sale was banned in the US, but we took no action against personal-use imports in baggage.

I am not sure when you worked for CBP, but they didn't start enforcing it now. The first post in this thread is a year and a half old, and I think they were enforcing it before that.

fairviewroad Jul 20, 2012 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by exbayern (Post 16270205)

The NBC story has a more alarming figure - 1,700 seizures of 25,000 eggs in 2010. 'Feds scrambling' is frankly a little bizarre sounding - no wonder this subject is the source of so much amusement amongst German friends and colleagues. http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...120524819.html

I realize I'm responding to a comment made over a year ago, but I think the "Feds scrambling" line was meant to be a play on words (eggs...scrambling...har har) rather than an attempt to convey a real sense of urgency or desperation.

Critic Jul 21, 2012 11:43 pm

Funny thing is, I crossed the border from Canada back into the US at Queenston/Lewiston yesterday - and the duty free store had Kinder eggs sitting right at the register! When I mentioned something about it to the cashier, she insisted that since everything in the store had to be exported, the eggs were perfectly legal. I tried to tell her about the Consumerist article & the FDA ban, and the fact that travelers caught with Kinder eggs have been booked on smuggling charges, but she was insistent that the eggs were perfectly legal to import to the US. Her colleague on bagging duty mentioned that I wasn't the first to say something about the eggs...but something tells me the eggs are still sitting at the register, the world's worst impulse buy.

InkUnderNails Jul 22, 2012 4:21 am

These are banned in the United States under the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and have never been available in the U.S. The United States is the only country that bans the eggs.

The Wikipedia article is a bit weak on details but can be found here. The link goes to the section on the U.S. ban of the eggs.

CBP press release


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