Menstruation Arouses TSA Suspicion
Seen this one yet? Good God. Woman subjected to invasive genital search because TSO was curious about her panty liner.
http://blog.gladrags.com/2010/11/24/...ruating-woman/ It's like the friggin' 19th century out there. Where do they hire these idiots? Oh, that's right. Pizza boxes. |
Why? Because of my flannel panty-liner. These new scans are so horrible that if you are wearing something unusual (like a piece of cloth on your panties) then you will be subjected to a search where a woman repeatedly has to check your "groin" while another woman watches on (two in my case - they were training in a new girl - awesome). So please, please, tell the ladies not to wear their liners at the airport (I didn't even have an insert in). I'm a strong, confident woman; I'm an Army vet (which is why those camo liners crack me up), I work full-time and go to graduate school full-time, I have a wonderful husband, and I don't take any nonsense from anyone. I don't dramatize, and I don't exaggerate. I'm trying to give you a sense of who I am so you won't think that this is a plea for attention, or a jumping on the bandwagon about the recent TSA proposed boycott. I just don't want another woman to have to go through the "patting down" because she didn't know that her glad-rag would be a matter of national security." But then again 'it never happened'. :rolleyes: |
Pathetic sheeple. She doesn't have a problem with the TSA for doing their invasive patdowns. She says: "So please, please, tell the ladies not to wear their liners at the airport". IOW it was her own fault for wearing the thing I guess. Those things don't look like they could absorb much blood. Maybe that is why the TSO was suspicous. "Miss, what is the purpose of this pad?". Could a used panty-liner be used as a weapon somehow? I hope she gets groped even more next time.
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I honestly don't understand the many posts in the last few days blaming the victim. :confused:
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This woman was no victim. She fully supports what the TSA is doing, fully believes in their right to do it, and disparages our efforts to protect people like her. Her only point was to warn other women not to wear panty liners. Read the article.
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I am absolutely not defending TSA here, but just to be clear -- this instance involved a flannel, reusable liner. These are worn by a fairly small minority of women -- most feminine hygeine products are the disposable kind and made of different materials. I don't know if the flannel product threw up some kind of flag that a disposable one wouldn't. Not that that's an excuse, but it might be an explanation.
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Originally Posted by BearX220
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Seen this one yet? Good God. Woman subjected to invasive genital search because TSO was curious about her panty liner.
http://blog.gladrags.com/2010/11/24/...ruating-woman/ It's like the friggin' 19th century out there. Where do they hire these idiots? Oh, that's right. Pizza boxes. |
Originally Posted by gojirasan
(Post 15283826)
Those things don't look like they could absorb much blood.
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I'm sort of wondering why she is wearing it at all. I have my suspicions, but I'm not really sure. And if I'm wondering then maybe a TSO who doesn't use them might wonder as well. Sort of a comment on the TSOs being overly suspicious and nosy about everythiing.
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Originally Posted by gojirasan
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Pathetic sheeple. She doesn't have a problem with the TSA for doing their invasive patdowns. She says: "So please, please, tell the ladies not to wear their liners at the airport". IOW it was her own fault for wearing the thing I guess. Those things don't look like they could absorb much blood. Maybe that is why the TSO was suspicous. "Miss, what is the purpose of this pad?". Could a used panty-liner be used as a weapon somehow? I hope she gets groped even more next time.
Not everybody uses a tampong. A lot of women, especially over 30 wears a pad. If it was me I would have taken it out in public and thrown it in front of them. SICK !. Now TSA is going to make a rule what you cant use when you have your "friend". And so what that they can be washed. That is the time now to recycle and for the earth.
Originally Posted by gojirasan
(Post 15284584)
I'm sort of wondering why she is wearing it at all. I have my suspicions, but I'm not really sure. And if I'm wondering then maybe a TSO who doesn't use them might wonder as well. Sort of a comment on the TSOs being overly suspicious and nosy about everythiing.
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i could understand going to these extremes if there had been a lot of "chatter" about an imminent attack by women wearing explosive maxipads and men hiding explosives in their scrotums... then i could understand the need for being so careful, but this isn't that... this is just policy.
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Originally Posted by sobetraveler
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i could understand going to these extremes if there had been a lot of "chatter" about an imminent attack by women wearing explosive maxipads and men hiding explosives in their scrotums... then i could understand the need for being so careful, but this isn't that... this is just policy.
So they are just going to "feel" around? Guess what then the "body fluids" would go every were. especially if the woman is "heavy bleeder. Nice work TSA and TSO agents. Dont these TSO female agents have periods? |
Originally Posted by tanja
(Post 15284953)
Nice work TSA and TSO agents.
Dont these TSO female agents have periods? But seriously, she was examined by female agents, and evidently this is just another case of TSOs getting a little too into their jobs. I am not surprised by this at all. I figured at some point someone was going to be thoroughly checked after going through the scanner for a hygiene product anomaly. The thing is, hygiene products could be used to transport explosive materials, but I doubt the TSA can/will actually be able to check them out enough to determine that (contents would need to be examined - not exterior). This puts us back again the the fact that we need to use information from our intelligence agencies so we don't harass a relatively harmless segment of the population. |
Originally Posted by gojirasan
(Post 15284584)
I'm sort of wondering why she is wearing it at all. I have my suspicions, but I'm not really sure. And if I'm wondering then maybe a TSO who doesn't use them might wonder as well. Sort of a comment on the TSOs being overly suspicious and nosy about everythiing.
The flannel panty-liners mentioned in the original article are a reusable (and often DIY -- they're an easy sewing project) alternative to disposable panty-liners. Many people who wear washable pads also use reusable alternatives to tampons, such as menstrual sponges (natural sea sponges) or silicone/latex cups like the Keeper or Diva Cup. So I can understand why a woman in that situation might be nervous -- imagine having to think about what you'll say if you're interrogated about something as private as what you do to manage your period! |
Isn't it incredible that here we are in 2010, arguing about panty liners, menstruation and security? Doesn't this strike people as so incredibly bizarre? Would a time traveler from 2002 even believe that this is happening? :(
If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"? |
Originally Posted by zitsky
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If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"?
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yes, they would.
with these new security measures in place, swallowing explosives in condoms, and shoving WMD devices up body cavities will become the next trend... |
Originally Posted by gojirasan
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I'm sort of wondering why she is wearing it at all. I have my suspicions, but I'm not really sure. And if I'm wondering then maybe a TSO who doesn't use them might wonder as well. Sort of a comment on the TSOs being overly suspicious and nosy about everythiing.
Originally Posted by tanja
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Not everybody uses a tampong. A lot of women, especially over 30 wears a pad.
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"?
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
Isn't it incredible that here we are in 2010, arguing about panty liners, menstruation and security? Doesn't this strike people as so incredibly bizarre? Would a time traveler from 2002 even believe that this is happening? :(
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I am absolutely freaking out about this - I have never been this scared of flying before (of course, it's not the flight itself that worries me). I was already very very anxious about the new security procedures as I can't bear to be touched, but I've now realised I'm going to be on my period when I next fly.
If I wear a regular pad, am I likely to have to suffer the deeply disturbing 'pat down', and will they go even further and make me remove it? (Sorry to be graphic, but really, how can you just remove it like that if you have a heavy period and your spares are in your hand luggage which you're prevented from reaching?) I have just read this: http://www.aclu.org/passengers-stories-recent-travel/ and number 22 on here is really awful. I prefer wearing pads, but if it saves embarrassment, humiliation and means I am less likely to be touched, I would wear a tampon - or will this also show up on the scanner? Would it be worth trying to find medication to delay my period? I DO NOT agree with having to do this but will do anything to get out of having my genitals touched (I'm the kind of person who's never even had a medical examination as I hate it that much). Unfortunately I can't drive to my destination. |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"?
I know people who believe that their lives are so precious and important that facing any risk on an airplane would put humanity at risk. I actually had someone at work say, "What if I am the person who will discover the cure for cancer next year, but I am blown up on a plane?" Then, he went outside and had a smoke. Never underestimate the ego that some people have that they are precious little snowflakes that must never face risk at any cost. Well, risk on an airliner. |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"?
History will look back at this and weep. |
The thing is the idea that full cavity searches were even a remote possibility would have been laughable years ago. Now I would not be surprised in the least if it were implemented would you? And I'm being serious here. I'm actually surprised that actual strip searches are not being conducted yet.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
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Viewed through that lens, I take your point. I just find it implausible a woman screener would be overly suspicious about meeting resistance with a pad.
Not to be pedantic but many women under 30 use pads. Culture and personal comfort dictate usage rather than mere age. The reply was more like why would poepl care what kind of pretection any women uses? I just think the whole thing sounds so weird. And to brought up about air travel security ! Nuts! Crazzy! |
Originally Posted by halls120
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Come on, now. Why do you continue posting these traitorous posts? Don't you understand that TSO's are more American than the rest of us, and their actions should never be questioned? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
If the TSA decided on cavity searches for everyone, would some people stand up and defend TSA as "protecting our safety"?
The security check-in lines will be shorter and move quicker, thus safer ?? Plus, the TSA clerk wouldn't have to worry about dealing with red bags, infection control things, changing gloves & proper handwash since they won't be inspecting the item in question as possible chemical hazard (bloodborne pathogen) :rolleyes: Just read on CNN that TSA spend 8 months :mad: quietly training & refining their enhanced patdown screening protocols and they must've missed this in their instruction manual, section 2.8.c.45. subpart 8x :confused: Ahh, what a bunch of turkeys ..... |
Actually the lines would be fewer as airlines go out of business.
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I think we should stop using any barriers during our periods while flying and see how long airlines like us staining their seats...
:rolleyes: Seriously, this is absolutely wrong. If this happens to me next week, I WILL NOT shut up about it. You want to know how many connections I have to the news media at both my airport cities? Find out, TSA! |
I'd love to hear the Einstein who instituted this explain how some woman terrorist is going to blow up a plane with a bomb in her panty liner. Such morons!
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 15285712)
Isn't it incredible that here we are in 2010, arguing about panty liners, menstruation and security? Doesn't this strike people as so incredibly bizarre? Would a time traveler from 2002 even believe that this is happening?
Originally Posted by essxjay
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Viewed through that lens, I take your point. I just find it implausible a woman screener would be overly suspicious about meeting resistance with a pad.
Not to be pedantic but many women under 30 use pads. Culture and personal comfort dictate usage rather than mere age. |
n4zhg: Same with me. Knew it was Reichstag Part Deux.
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Originally Posted by tanja
(Post 15284953)
Yes. And I have also read that TSO agents are discusted by body fluids. They cant if it both ways.. plus they cant look "inside" it. That was I was told by Sattso on an other trhread.
So they are just going to "feel" around? Guess what then the "body fluids" would go every were. especially if the woman is "heavy bleeder. Nice work TSA and TSO agents. Dont these TSO female agents have periods? This whole thing with the TSA and their clerks is so appalling that it's giving me high blood pressure. |
Have you seen some of those bruts they have for female screeners? Some of them look like they have waaayyy too much testosterone running through their veins, so therefore no need for feminine products of any sort for them |
Something to think about: TSA is NOT going to verify that a person who is actually a MALE who CLAIMS to be a female just so he can feel up women all day in gratifying his perversions is in fact really EITHER sex.
So some of those butch looking "women" patting down female passengers could actually BE male perverts molesting with impunity. |
Personally, I've always found menstruating VERY suspicious. What is it all about anyway?? What unseemly activity is this covering up as a diversion. Perhaps we need the FBI or some congresssional committee looking into this "menstruating" business to find out what's really going on here. It could be intended to undermine the foundations of our society.
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Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance
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Personally, I've always found menstruating VERY suspicious. What is it all about anyway?? What unseemly activity is this covering up as a diversion. Perhaps we need the FBI or some congresssional committee looking into this "menstruating" business to find out what's really going on here. It could be intended to undermine the foundations of our society.
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Originally Posted by gojirasan
(Post 15284584)
I'm sort of wondering why she is wearing it at all. I have my suspicions, but I'm not really sure. And if I'm wondering then maybe a TSO who doesn't use them might wonder as well. Sort of a comment on the TSOs being overly suspicious and nosy about everythiing.
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LuvAirFrance, I am going to send you a bill for a cup of coffee and a new keyboard. Also my nasal passages are burning from the coffee. Ouch.
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I was wearing a sanitary napkin, so the agent notified her supervisor that I had a "foreign object." It took about 10 minutes for her to walk 70 feet, speak with the supervisor, and return. Then she collected my carry-ons and began swabbing items in each of them. This process took a verrrrrry long time.... It was obvious to me that this was punitive for refusing the body scanner.... Finally I was told to remove my sanitary napkin. By the time I got to the gate the jetway had been removed and I was not able to board. |
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