PreCheck Shoes On and WTMD
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PreCheck Shoes On and WTMD
If PreCheck passengers can go through WTMD wearing just about any kind of shoes, except perhaps, steel-toed, what was all the fuss about a few years ago when people were told the steel shank in their shoes would set off the machine?
Have the WTMD at Pre been adjusted so that they now don't alarm on shoes?
Have the WTMD at Pre been adjusted so that they now don't alarm on shoes?
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If PreCheck passengers can go through WTMD wearing just about any kind of shoes, except perhaps, steel-toed, what was all the fuss about a few years ago when people were told the steel shank in their shoes would set off the machine?
Have the WTMD at Pre been adjusted so that they now don't alarm on shoes?
Have the WTMD at Pre been adjusted so that they now don't alarm on shoes?
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They are looking for explosives when x-raying shoes.
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
U.S. Tackles Shoe-Bomb Problem
Ever since Richard Reid was caught on an airliner trying to detonate plastic explosives in one of his shoes, passengers have had to endure occasional footwear inspections in the airport.
That was supposed to be a temporary inconvenience while the government devised an efficient system to screen everybody for nonmetalic weapons, but a year and a half later, little has changed. Technical glitches, privacy concerns and congressional squabbles over money have slowed the government's progress toward preventing another would-be shoe bomber.
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That was supposed to be a temporary inconvenience while the government devised an efficient system to screen everybody for nonmetalic weapons, but a year and a half later, little has changed. Technical glitches, privacy concerns and congressional squabbles over money have slowed the government's progress toward preventing another would-be shoe bomber.
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They are looking for explosives when x-raying shoes.
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
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Then I presume that a lot of people end up taking off their shoes because, unless things have changed, most shoes, except sneakers, have shanks in them.
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There are a few lists of manufacturers that do or don't use shanks, and what type, out on the web, but those lists are by no means comprehensive.
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They are looking for explosives when x-raying shoes.
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
The shoe rule took effect after a would-be bomber Richard Reid unsuccessfully attempted to ignite his explosives-laden sneakers aboard an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December 2001.
In The Wall Street journal:
TSA had the technology to detect shoe and other type bombs but TSA's employees were too incompetent to maintain Explosive Trace Portals in an operational mode. Even now TSA could do random ETD swabs of peoples shoes to address the almost non-existent threat of a shoe bomb.
TSA is so eaten up with stupid that the agency is unable to conduct any real risk analysis. If TSA really wanted to address terrorist type threats the first step would be 100% screening of insiders. But that won't happen, paying airline passengers are so much easier for TSA to harrass and abuse.