Maybe your agency should stop implementing needless and indefensible policies that require people to use so many bins. And maybe then you should quit whinging and do your job or find another job.

Am I imagining things or did the title of this thread change?

Anyways, here is my take: I never need bins in countries that don´t have ridiculous shoes, laptop, liquid baggies or light jacket removal rules. I just put my carry on on the belt and go my own way. If you invent ridiculous rules that make us use bins, don´t expect us to pick up on the remnants of your mess.

you are 100% correct ^ and you'd like me as with all "my sop" re my orthopedic shoes, freedom baggie, laptop in its proper (aka tsa approved) bag, having all metallic objects inside my jacket and placing said jacket along with my sweater into the "l'il grey bins", once i'm done with my secondary, i always (n.b. always place my bins "back in the stack" (and on several occasions, i've been thanked by your counterparts for doing so where i respond with something like, "mom brought me up to clean up my own mess" ;))

Every night when I am leaving our own contracted cleaning company mops the floors within the checkpoint. Can't really say anything about theft, mostly because I don't steal and I think there should be severe punishment for those that do.

What's the dirtiest thing that gets put into the bins all the time? Shoes. They DON'T HAVE TO go in to a bin. Put them on the belt. I'm not going to force you to put them on the belt, but don't complain to me that your suit jacket got all dirty because you "had to" put your shoes on top of it.

I thank people that do if I get the chance to.
Maybe people could not be nasty and dirty coming through the CP. I am sure you guys have all had the experience of a nasty neighbor passenger on the plane. I don't understand why people can't take care of their personal hygiene, why I have to go get some disinfectant spray because someone took off their shoes and it smells like moldy rotting cheese. And not good cheese. (I know all cheese is moldy, thanks) Or if I literally have to hold my breath to wand someone because they don't know what deodorant is. If people would just put the required items into the bins, how dirty would they really get? Laptops, other large electronics, jackets, yepp that's about it. I love it though when people(obviously no one here cuz you all know what you're doing at the CP) place their roll-aboard bag upright inside of a tray, and then can't figure out why the bag won't fit into the x-ray in that manner, or how to get it in then.

50,000 of us... well that's great, and when I see 50,000 at one airport then maybe it might happen. The last few days, not to mention all of the other days of the year, at my 9 lane checkpoint, there has been so few people working we have only been able to have 3 or 4 of those lanes open. People don't understand that it takes alot of people to run certain checkpoints. For instance, we send 4 people to cover two of the terminals exits, three people to cover TDC, That's 7 people so far. Now start opening lanes, One on the xray, one at the mag, one for bag checks and secondary. And when that one on bag checks has to do a bag check or secondary, there is no one left on the lane. I understand that you guys get frustrated when we don't have enough people to operate enough lanes to get you through the CP quickly. I wish we did. But I can't stand when mgmt tries to open a lane with 2 people and thinks that's just fine. That's another reason why we don't stop all those little liquids in your bags, if they are large, yes they will get stopped but the little ones in your umm "kippie" bags, not so much. There's not enough of us. And TSA is really putting the cart in front of the horse, with the new AIT machines, Nude-O-Scopes as y'all call them. They have been doing construction at my CP to install one on every set of lanes. They take almost 5 people to run the machine, REDICULOUS! They install all of these new machines(fine, whatever) and do not have the personnel to operate them. At one of the checkpoints there is 4 machines, but mgmt says only two of them may be run at the same time, uhh what a waste?!?!

It sounds like you're whining too... ;) BTW I've never given anyone the DY...T and I think anyone that says that is just DUMB. I can't stop you from flying. Well I can't, my Stupidvisor can, kinda, but LEO can for sure. whatever.

Only law enforcement or the airline's GSC can prevent a passenger from flying. TSA has no say in the matter.

Most of the rest of your points mirror many of the lies that are routinely told by TSA about shoes, liquids, ID, etc. I really couldn't care less if you think that repeating them here makes you feel better about your Workfare job or the disgusting, un-American agency who pays you.

Bottom line: people who detest your agency aren't going to be at all interested in helping you at the checkpoint in any way, shape, or form.

Well OK as you already know what I am going to tell you, I'm going to say it anyways. No, we can not prevent you from flying, however we can deny you access to the screening checkpoint. Thus, denying you access to the gate area of the terminal. Although you would have to do something pretty bad to receive that treatment. My supervisor is a great guy, however some of the other supervisors on the checkpoint are for lack of a better word, MORONS!

I dont know what your breathing or drinking, but put it down and step away.

Ummm hate to break it to you, but the "london plot" is sci-fi fantasy. What TSA claims as truth isnt stable enough for a person to walk down the street with let alone get on a airplane. not to mention you need lab conditions to get close to synthesizing such compounds, and I dont know of a catered commercial aircraft that has that much ice and dry ice, and glass where needed to do such work. then there is the smell that makes Durian smell like a bed of roses.

Where do you pull this fantasy. Its not that hard to take the top off a 20oz bottle without making it look like it was tampered. Cans you cant due to the way there put together and sealed. any tampering would be evident to a 2 year old. same goes for medication vials its obvious if its been tampered with.

pictures, images, graphics, what ever makes you sleep better at night. still a nude representation of a human. someone seeing a penis or vagina shouldnt be a requirement to fly.

asking stupid questions, lets see TDC, BDO (ie those that cant catch squat, not even there own co-workers committing crimes and other activities that arent kosher)

let see when you have multiple people barking at me to move along but yet all of my property hasn't come through yet,and the same barkers conversational skills and customer service skills are lacking, ad neasuem.

as for the threats, well you may not, but your statical pool is very small compared to many on here who considering many of your co-workers make such terroristic threats on a regular basis. Your ignorance on keeping people from traveling shows in your last sentence, as its been seen time after time and on bravo sierra grounds on more times then not.

+1

I don't see a bin issue in the airports I use regularly which are outside of the US.

Reading the OP and the subsequent response from OP leads me to write that respect goes two ways. If the passenger is not treated with respect, why should one expect them to do the work of cleaning up the screening area?

I am actually a bin cleaner in the US - I do sort and stack bins for you OP and my fellow travellers. The tone of your posts however make me less inclined to do so. May I suggest that your message was lost in the delivery.

Look. I was merely trying to give people a perspective from the other side of the glass, since you don't get it very often. I am not trying to make a yelling match out of anything. I can not change anything there. I can only work within the confines of what Washington DC says they want done. You don't like it(obviously), more and more people need to complain, to the people in DC, whom won't listen to a word you will have to say, and if they listened, they wouldn't care.

You want a real picture of the stupidity. When my CP closes, we have roll down gates that we bring down to seal the checkpoint up. One of the AM managers complained and threatened to write up a PM supervisor for not securing the checkpoint, because one of the gates was about an inch from the floor. Now let me say that the ceiling in the terminal is about 35 ft high. The gates are maybe 12 ft tall. What's to stop someone from throwing ANYTHING over the top to someone inside at say 1:30am when the CP is closed and NO ONE IS THERE to watch it???

I didn't mean to sound as if I had a demeaning tone.:confused: Sorry if I did. I am kind of new at the whole blog thing and making my tone clear when I am posting...

I am only proposing possibilities that can be exchanged for what you ask. I live with them all the time and never say a word. Except here where I can vent and not be prevented from traveling, get a retaliatory screening or be detained by an LEO. I grin. I bear it. Mostly.

Okay, maybe it is a whine. A little one.

Honestly, the bold font and the large font and the underlining read to me very similar to the barking I hear at US airport checkpoints. To me it tends to negate the message. I will generally comply with requests even if they don't always make sense to me, but as soon as someone starts to bark or shout or treat me with disrespect, I am less inclined to be as helpful.

Just some feedback from a FF who does say 'thank you' and 'good morning' even when there is no greeting in return, and who does sort and stack bins. Bark at me, and I am less likely to behave in that fashion.

The security experience at non-US airports is often very polite and civil and friendly.

You can't even do that unless I am in violation of a TSA rule.

If there is a TSA labor shortage, maybe some of the Gate Gropers can be reassigned to tub stacking duty.

One stone, two birds! :p

The restrooms could use cleaning too.

What do you expect when you refer to your boss as a "stupidvisor" and passengers as "nasty and dirty" and refer to the "stupidity" of some "moron" colleagues?